Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 1997/04/09
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Paul Schliesser wrote: >...You don't >necessarily need formal training, but you need some form of training >even if it's teaching yourself through trial and error, or through >reading and by studying other people's work. Why be content to squat >in the dirt when there are giants whose shoulders we can stand on? You know, this is an area where my wife and I have had a long running dispute. She is a daughter of a physicist & an artist was then trained as a graphic artist: Her education was almost entirely in the hands of actual practitioners of their arts or science. She believes that you can't learn something unless it is directly from a practitioner. On the other hand, probably the last thing I was taught by a practitioner was reading. Pretty much right through the University, my teachers were just that: Only occasionally did their classes & subjects of research coincide. Programming was taught by an engineer, Logic by a computability theorist, Operating systems by a artificial intelligence researcher. &c., &c. ad nauseam. What I have learned has almost entirely been through books followed by going out and trying it. Photography has been the same way, I have read about it and gone forth and done it. God knows if I could get some of my early prints back from my parents I would burn them because they are so incredibly bad, maybe not too bad for being in fifth grade, but nonetheless, awful grey over exposed/ under developed monstrosities. Now I am at a stage where I really like the prints I have been producing, but wish I were more efficient: It often takes me four hours or more and a dozen sheets of paper to arrive at a single print I am happy with. Likewise, I wonder if (or how much) I would benefit from working with someone with similar interests & tastes versus continuing solo, developing on my own. (pardon the pun) BTW: Does it seem to anyone else that the recommended development times for Ilford & Kodak (B&W) papers is too short: they don't seem to reach (visual) maximum black without much more development... - John Lowther