Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 1997/07/18
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Dear Leica Users, I hope you will bear with me for a moment, this is not about using Leicas. I ran an auction on ebay a couple of weeks ago, to sell an M3. I described the camera, included pictures, and put a reasonable reserve on the auction. When the auction was over, I shipped the camera and thought that was it. Unfortunately, the winner was unhappy with the condition of the camera. I immediately offered to refund his money and I also offered to reimburse him for the return postage. He said "Your character shines through like that of a gentleman. I'll handle the postage, if you would just return my check we'll be square.The camera will go out in the same box on Monday morn."(Monday 7/7, but I have yet to receive the camera) Again I thought that the matter was put to rest. I received his check (I had sent the camera c.o.d.) last Thursday, and mailed it back to him last Friday. You can imagine my surprise when I found out that I was being blasted in the L.U.G. for grossly overstating the condition of the camera. It was not a pleasant feeling to think that he could have done so without any response from me. He had also said in his first email;" I won't say a word to anyone on ebay, or usenet, should anyone contact me. I would just like to return the camera and walk away even". Fortunately, I was informed by someone who had a successful transaction with me on ebay that I should take a look at what was being said. If anyone has kept copies of the postings, could you please send a copy to me at my email address? I sent an email to the man who was to return the M3. I asked when and how he had mailed it. I also asked if he would send me copies of the postings he had made about me. I wrote to him on Monday the 14th, but he hasn't responded. I have been buying and selling cameras for about 14 years. Most of my customers are return clients. In the past week, I have sent out about 50 cameras and lenses to repeat customers. In addition, I have been selling on ebay for a couple of months. If you go to the feedback section of ebay, you can see the 57 or so positive comments that have been made about my wife and I. One of those comments says that the item I sold was better than described. That was written by a L.U.G. member. I mention this to let you all know that I do not purposely mislead anyone about the condition of a camera. I treat people as I would like to be treated. Have I ever erred in describing a camera? Of course. Intentionally? No. Was the M3 as bad as was described? No. I included a picture of the camera in the ebay description. I even felt that the dent was significant enough to warrant the use of another picture. I was really surprised to hear that the purchaser was unhappy because the dent was "more significant than was evident from the picture". If you describe a dent AND take a picture of it, isn't that sufficient? I rated the camera 8.2, and mentioned the missing pieces of leather. The rangefinder, shutter and self-timer were working. The camera was not "pitted with rust". If you look at the photo I included with the auction, you can see that it's not a basket case: http://www.pongo.com/aw-images/hansen/leicam3.jpg But when I got his email of complaints, I didn't argue. I could have missed something. It could have been worse than 8.2. And if I missed something, I wanted to pay his return postage. What I don't like is that he used this forum to drag my name through the mud, but didn't have the decency to say that he would do so. If you have read this far, I want to thank you for taking the time. My reputation is important to me, and I'm glad I got a chance to give my side of the story. Sincerely, Bruce Hansen