Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 1999/07/03

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Subject: Re: [Leica] Re: B&W Papers
From: Mark Cohen <markc@necronomicon.net>
Date: Sat, 3 Jul 1999 14:54:37 -0700 (PDT)

Id recommend that people not use Freestyle as a source for anything other
then equipment. When I lived in LA I used to go there all the time and 9
times out of 10 the paper/film/chemicals I purchased from there were mis
treated and usually fogged. They tend to leave boxes of film/paper on the
loading dock in that hot LA sun for hours.

I finally stopped buying perishables there and stuck with the equipment
that I knew wouldn't go bad.

If you are looking for a good source for paper/chemicals Id recommend
Photographers Supply here in San Francisco. They do mail order, have good
prices and have a relatively large stock of papers and films. 

Another source (though their prices are a little high, and they have a
major attitude problem (including the owner Peter Pfirzig)) is Looking
Glass in Berkeley, California. They have one of the larger supplies of
paper Ive seen and I know they treat it properly.

- -Mark



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On Sat, 3 Jul 1999, Ken Wilcox wrote:

Oriental is available from Freestyle. Orders are usually filled within a week.

Interestingly I haven't noted the problem you describe with Spotone on
Illford. Do you dilute with distilled water?

Ken Wilcox

At 05:42 AM 7/3/99 -0700, you wrote:
>Perhaps some of the B&W printers here can give me some advice. Since the
>demise (I know, it's available again - but not in my area) of Oriental
>paper, I've been using primarily Ilford Multi Grade Fiber papers. But, I
>recently bought a beautiful Lietz Focomat 1C and so have switched from my
>long-time diffusion enlarger back to a condensor. My problem is that the
>Ilford paper just doesn't spot well. As careful as I am, I find that with a
>condensor enlarger I usually need to do at least a little print spotting.
>The Ilford paper just doesn't seem to absorb the conventional Spotone dyes.
>I'm not using a hardening fixer.
>
>If I could get some feedback here, it could save me a lot of brand testing.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Bryan
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Guy Bennett <gbennett@club-internet.fr>
>To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
>Sent: Saturday, July 03, 1999 4:58 AM
>Subject: Re: [Leica] Travel Security
>
>
>> >Alastair Firkin  wrote:
>> >
>> >>Didn't they get you at the Commonwealth Games ?>>>>>>>>
>> >
>> >
>> >Jeeesh,
>> >
>> >I'm never going to live this one down. :)
>> >
>> >OK folks for the  second time....
>> >
>> >
>> >LA 84 Olympics and Kuala Lumpur  Commonwealth Games 98! Both R's 4 and 8
>> >
>> >ted
>>
>>
>> ted,
>>
>> where HAVEN'T they got you???
>>
>> guy
>>
>
>
>
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Ken Wilcox					Carolyn's Personal Touch Portraits
LAW LHSA MEA						          <wilcox@tir.com>