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Subject: RE: [Leica] "Filters for the 75/1.4M indoors?"- Certainly! Especially for negatives!
From: "B. D. Colen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net>
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 10:11:48 -0400

Dan - If I may tap your expertise...

How does the "new" Kodak TCN look compared to HP2 Super? And does it print
on black and white paper better/easier, than XP2? In fact, is it more
difficult to print on black and white paper than a traditional black and
white film, say TriX?

Thanks..

B. D.

- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
[mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us]On Behalf Of Dan Post
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 1999 12:15 PM
To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
Subject: Re: [Leica] "Filters for the 75/1.4M indoors?"- Certainly!
Especially for negatives!


AS a photofinisher, in a one hour lab, I have to sqeak up, at this point.
The problem with balancing color negative film to tungsten, without filters,
is that the blue sensitive layer is usually so underexposed as to have very
little information on it.... this is the yellow dye layer, and you can add
as much yellow filtration- in the negative process of printing this yields
blue or minus yellow in the print, and if the information is not there, it
is JUST NOT THERE! You get an overall blue pgoto that looks like.... crap!
Either over exposed the film so you get SOME information on the blue layer
or use a blue filter- either way, you reduce the efective speed, but you'll
get much better color!
Flame all you want, but from where I sit, at the printer, it is a lot easier
to correct to a decent color balance when you have sufficient information on
the negative in all three layers, to get a fair representation of the
subject!
The hardest task I've ever had was explaining to a lady that even if she
used a white backdrop to photograph her craft items with tungsten light,
that if I balanced the sheet to look white, everything else was a funny
color- had to show her the densitometer readings where the blue sensitive
layer had a density of .22 and the red and green layers had densities of
about .80!
If you do use filters, and want good correction- shoot a frame or two with a
neutral gray card- modst printers balance to a gray. I can read the
densities of the gray card on the negative and get a ballpark correction- or
read a test print of the gray card and know the amount of correction to key
in for that roll. Some one hour labs, however, may balk at taking the time
to do this, or they may have operators that use the PHD button to print
 Push Here!, Dummy!).
Try it with filters and a gray card- you'll be pleasantly surprised.

Dan ( The Sixty Minute Man....)
- ----- Original Message -----
From: apbc <apbc@public1.sta.net.cn>
To: Leica Users Group <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 1999 6:42 AM
Subject: [Leica] Donning his asbestos suit, he asks: "Filters for the
75/1.4M indoors?"


> >When you folks are shooting color film with your wonderful 50/1.0 or
> >75/1.4, how do you avoid the dreaded orange glow from incandescent
> >lighting?
>
> 64T, 160T, 320T or a professional printer of negatives all do very
> nicely, thank you.
>
> Bests
>
> Adrian
>
> Adrian Bradshaw
> Editorial and Corporate Photography
> Shanghai, China
>
>