Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 1999/09/27

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Subject: RE: [Leica] Ted's outcry
From: Paul Chefurka <Paul_Chefurka@pmc-sierra.com>
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 09:04:42 -0700

I don't know if anyone has noticed, but IMO Anthony's output has become both
more restrained and more reasonable over the past few days.  Give the guy a
break - he'll settle in here in his own way and on his own terms.  If some
regulars are upset by a flood of questions, commentary and strong opinions
from a newbie, they should look not only to his actions but to their own
reactions as well - the LUG is not simply a preserve for the technically
sophisticated, the socially adept and the deferential.  This is still the
net, remember - the last bastion of egalitarianism and free speech.
Especially on an unmoderated list like this.

It's good to aspire to ascending to a higher level of discourse, but there
has to be room in this world for the questions of the uninformed.  If those
are not permitted, the only way a neophyte has of acquiring enlightenment is
to sit and read - hoping that the masters will by some chance hand out the
desired tablets.  And before someone says "What about the archives?", I will
point out that as far as I can tell the LUG hasn't been archived since May
8.

Paul Chefurka

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Erwin Puts [mailto:imxputs@knoware.nl]
> Sent: Monday, September 27, 1999 11:29 AM
> To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> Subject: [Leica] Ted's outcry
> 
> 
> I do sympathize with Ted's advise to Anthony to take a break and 
> start taking pictures. It is really easy as Ted noticed and Horst has 
> given almost all tips one needs to make a decent slew of photographs.
> As long as Luggers feel inclined to react to Anthony's curious mix of 
> technical naivety and strong views on every (technical) aspect of 
> photography, we will never ascend to a higher level. May I humbly 
> suggest that we all make one default answer to all posts from 
> Anthony, as below:
> "
> Buy a beginners book and read it. Try Osterloh: Leica M Technique. 
> There are excellent bookshops in Paris. Then take photographs for a 
> full month, carefully note what you did and what went wrong. Then buy 
> a second more advanced book.  Study your mistakes.  Take pictures for 
> two months. Carefully etc. Restrain yourself to one email a week to 
> the Lug. People there will have the expertise and knowledge to answer 
> this question. It will benefit all and we may stop all people from 
> unsubscribing.
> "
> 
> Erwin
> 
>