Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 1999/10/20

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Subject: Re: [Leica] M4 vs M6
From: Stephen <cameras@jetlink.net>
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 10:27:03 -0700

Hello Mr. Puts,

I would imagine we would both agree the M6 is best made mechanical 35mm
camera currently being produced, but that is not the issue.  The question
how the M6 compares to the M4,  which is the better built camera?    This
question includes both the interior construction and the exterior fit and
finish -- both elements combine to make the camera.

If Leica Nuts compare mint- or better examples of the M4 besides a M6,
it's my experience very few of them will choose the M6 as the better
finished camera, not only in terms of the exterior quality of the finish,
but also in terms of the smoothness of the film advance and shutter
release.   Mike and I would certainly choose the M4.

For those who haven't done so,  I urge you to compare a clean M4 to a
clean M6 and make up your own mind --- don't depend upon anyone else's
opinion.

You asked for specifics on the interior construction, I am gathering
data and will post it within a week.   In practical terms the M4 vs M6 is
much like the story of the bright and beautiful younger sister, who could
never quite measure up to her even brighter and even more beautiful older
sister.    Another way of looking at it is the change in manufacturing
over the last 40 years.  Older, more labor intensive production methods
have been replaced with less costly methods in virtually every field.
Leica is no exception.  Likewise fit and finish of many products has also
been downgraded to lower costs.   Interestingly, we are having this
discussion because Leica has made a very honest attempt to keep the old
standards while playing by the new rules.   The Japanese manufacturers
went the  modern route, forsaking the older construction methods  while
still aiming for high durability.

The "construction joke" of the M6 depends upon one's sense of humor.  The
joke is that today's M6 has a substandard fit and finish compared to the
older M4/M3/M2 cameras, yet sells for much more in simple dollar figures
(not accounting for inflation).  There is an irony there, whether it's a
joke depends upon what you think is funny.

The change in the M4-2 rangefinder,  which is carried forward today in
the M6,  defeats the notion of  the M6 being the better built camera all
by itself.  The resulting occasional M6 RF ghosting problem  comes up as
a regular topic on the LUG.   The culprits are missing condensing lenses
in the finder of the later cameras -- for cost savings.   A LUG member
brought this to my attention, and I confirmed it with Solms.   If he
cares to, he can explain the problem in depth.

How can  a "better built" M6 rangefinder camera have a rangefinder which
is not good as its processors?     I don't believe "the better built
camera"  can have such a deficiency, which alone makes the M4 the better
built camera.

Even if we agree to disagree on this M4 vs M6 issue, I think we both
agree on the overall excellence of Leica products.

Stephen Gandy