RE: [Leica] Handheld Magazine

["Tim Atherton" <tim@KairosPhoto.com>]

Sorry Steve, they aren't a "liberal" paper - they are a capitalist paper,
with the bottom line being the ruling factor.

Tim A

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us]On Behalf Of Steve
> LeHuray
> Sent: May 10, 2000 3:00 PM
> To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Handheld Magazine
>
>
> Donal,
> Interesting comment, but, I suppose it depends on what you shoot--I just
> read yesterday on a Formula 1 news web site about magazine writers
> complaining that Formula 1 photographers are receiving six figure fees for
> their photography. But shame on the New York Times, I would think
> a liberal
> paper like that would treat their people better. As far as the
> internet goes
> I promise you that it is going to turn into a real zoo.
> Steve
> Annapolis
>
>
> ----------
> >From: Donal Philby <donalphilby@earthlink.net>
> >To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> >Subject: Re: [Leica] Handheld Magazine
> >Date: Wed, May 10, 2000, 8:32 AM
> >
>
> > Julian Thomas wrote:
> >
> >> > http://www.handheldmagazine.com
> >> >
> >>  Wow!! How do these on-line magazines make any money? This is
> top quality
> >> stuff for free! Isn't the internet wonderful!
> >>
> > Julian,
> >
> > It depends on which side of free you are on-- the getting or the
> > giving.  You may have no idea of the resistance in the publishing
> > industry to paying much of anything at all for photos or other content
> > on the web.  The NY Times grossed over $24million in ad revenue on its
> > website last year and refuses to pay for web useage without a battle.  A
> > friend sold a travel photo to them for the Sunday section and found it
> > on the web, too, despite delivery memo forbidding such without
> > approval.  It took three months of exchanges with NYT attorneys to get
> > the $50 she requested.  And with the check was a letter stating that she
> > would never again do business with the NYTimes.  As magazines move from
> > paper to web publishing they are establishing a precedent that photos
> > have little value for web use.  Professional photographers are in a
> > serious survival battle.  I can tell you from personal experience that
> > photos on public access web sites such as those of AOL pay photographers
> > little more than the cost of the film to shoot it on.
> >
> > Isn't the internet wonderful?
> >
> > donal
> >
> > __________
> > Donal Philby
> > San Diego
> > www.donalphilby.com
> >
>