Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2000/05/17

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Subject: Re: [Leica] Wedding photography
From: "Takeshi Hashimoto" <hashimoto.takeshi@mailcity.com>
Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 05:17:56 -1100

 
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On Wed, 17 May 2000 08:40:50   Brian Reid wrote:
>Most of the photography that I do is portaiture, either formal or
>informal. I've done a lot of weddings, though none in the last 20 years.
>
>Here is my perspective on the posed vs unposed issue.
>
>Weddings are complex symbolic events. If all you want to do is become
>married, you can do this in a courthouse with one witness. If you have
>a wedding ceremony and party, it has social and symbolic purposes as
>well as legal purposes.
>
>One of the symbolic purposes of weddings, especially church weddings,
>is that they are cultural links to the past and future. It's not just
>that someone is getting married, it's that they are getting married
>using an ancient ceremony that their ancestors used, and that their
>desendants will use. It's part of the link to their cultural identity. 
>It ritually joins the couple not just to each other, in a vacuum, but
>to the larger context of the society in which they will be living.
>
>Posed wedding pictures are part of the tradition, no less so than the
>flowers, the clothing, the music, the spoken words, the rings, and the
>cake. It's not just that the pictures are posed; there are traditional
>poses. When I ask the bride and groom to pose with their mothers for
>Traditional Shot #5, "Bride and Groom and Their Mothers", I am not just
>asking them to pose. I am asking them to show the world, by their
>willingness to participate in this ritual, that they subscribe to the
>traditions of the culture in which they are getting married. There is a
>clear hierarchy of ten posed pictures for the wedding day itself:
>	#1: The bride in her dress, without veil
>	#2: The bride and groom in their formal clothing
>	#3: The bride and groom and their witnesses
>	#4: The bride and groom and their witnesses and attendants
>	#5: The bride and groom and their mothers
>	#6: The bride and groom and their fathers
>	#7: The bride and groom and their parents
>	#8: The bride and groom and the groom's entire family
>	#9: The bride and groom and the bride's entire family
>	#10: The entire collection of people in one big picture
>In some religious ceremonies we add #2a: The bride and groom and the
>religious leader who married them. Then after these 10 or 11 ritual
>pictures, which are as much a part of the tradition as the exchange of
>rings, various people and family members can take advantage of the
>photographer's being there by posing for other shots.
>
>Some people choose to get married without subscribing to the tradition.
>That's fine. It's not for me, but it's fine for them if that's what
>they want. The posed formal pictures are just part of that tradition.
>
>Brian Reid


What if they gave a wedding and nobody came? What if we reject the whole wedding industrial complex: no rings, no pictures, no bachelor parties, and just concentrated on what a wedding is supposed to lead to: MARRIAGE. Ancient classical cultures got along fine without without the wedding industrial complex. The whole thing's just gotten out of hand. When you need a wedding coordinator that's too much.
Why not just friends, wine, and food.


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