Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2000/05/18

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Subject: Re: [Leica] "Quick" DOF calculation
From: Johnny Deadman <deadman@jukebox.demon.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 18:45:50 +0100

on 18/5/00 5:14 pm, Bmceowen@aol.com at Bmceowen@aol.com wrote:

> 
> In a message dated 5/18/00 9:04:55 AM, deadman@jukebox.demon.co.uk writes:
> 
>> Bob, check out my HUMAN TRAFFIC site and you'll see I'm sometimes doing
>> just
>> that. Or shooting at 1/1000 and f/1.4 to do grab shots with limited depth
>> of
>> field... very neat when it works, and looks nothing like the standard f/11
>> street stuff you're used to seeing.
> 
> I looked at your site but didn't notice many images that obviously looked
> like they were shot at f 1.4. Most had a reasonable amount of depth of field.
> The images that I saw that took advantage of limited depth of field looked
> like they might have been shot with something longer (but maybe not) -- the
> pic of the black gal leaning against the railing comes to mind. It could have
> been a 35mm, though.

That was a 50. I focused that one, but I had to be quick.
> 
> I have to confess I really don't get "street shooting." Without suggesting
> anything about your images -- I liked some of the reportage stuff quite a bit
> (more than the true "street" stuff, in fact) -- but GENERALLY, I find most
> so-called "street photography" to be utter crap. A lot of it looks like what
> I get when my elbow bumps the shutter of a camera hanging off my shoulder.
> Most of what I see I would never print, much less publish. (Again, I'm not
> talking about YOUR images). Even the best of it has a real snap shot feel to
> it so I've never understood the discussion of photo techique in relation to
> "street shooting."

Well, like I always say, street shooting is like jazz. The first time I
listened to Charlie Parker it sounded like a mess and I didn't get it at
all. You don't 'get it' that's fine, but that doesn't make it 'crap' (as the
250+ subscribers to the streetphoto list tends to indicate).

Moreover, good street photography is both technically and emotionally
extremely challenging. That's perhaps why a lot of it (and I include many
images on my own site) is not so great. Maybe another reason you don't like
it because it's what HCB called 'anti-graphic' photography. Who knows?

It's HARD, man. You'll never know how hard until you try it. And if you
don't like it I guess you'll never try it. Oh well.

- --
Johnny Deadman

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