Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2000/07/20
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Chris Lee wrote <snip> The 645's outer plastics are very different from those used on the Aria. The goal is to achieve the lowest weight and maximum protection. A mixture of carbonfibre and plastic was used. The former gives the camera its impact resistance and lightweight (carbonfiber is actually stronger than steel in impact absorption), and the latter allows the body to be formed into a more complex shape. (Very costly do to with carbonfiber if no plastic is added.) Especially in the low quantities of the Contax 645 produced, the carbonfiber+plastic can actually be a lot more expensive than steel. It was certainly not a cost issue. Chris As a person who has been using composite materials (mainly carbon/epoxy) in high performance structures for 20 years I feel an urge to correct, with respect, a couple of your comments above which are commonly held misconceptions probably due to marketing use of the buzz word carbon fibre. Carbon fibre itself is very long fine fibres and is sold as "rope" and cloth, without a plastic matrix holding the cloth together it is like a dish towel. It cannot be used structurally apart from as a composite matrix of plastic reinforced by these fibres. The things that differ between the high tech and cheap and cheerful versions include the plastic used for the composite matrix, the ratio of matrix to fibre, the fibre length and its orientation. In a high tech carbon structure the matrix is usually a thermoset plastic such as epoxy and between 50% and 55% carbon fibre. The cloth or unidirectinal strands of carbon are continuous from one end of the structure to the other and oriented to give the stiffness required in the directions necessary. The mechanical properties of the structure are dominated by the carbon, the plastic is just there to glue the fibres together. In the type of "carbon fibre" used in most commercial products the matrix is a thermoplastic which can be injection moulded. The fibres are little bits of chopped strands a couple of mm long, any longer and they clog up the injection moulding machine. The orientation of the fibres is "whichever direction when the plastic set". The mechanical properties of the part are dominated by the plastic though there is a worthwhile improvement in stiffness and particularly temperature stability. Carbon fibre is actually not particularly strong but it is stiff. Its resilience is dominated by the type of plastic matrix it is reinforcing. It is not particularly expensive nowadays, although the manufacturing process for the high tech structures is. The thermal stability added to polycarbonates by the chopped carbon strands is probably the most attractive property for use in lenses (faintly OT) Carbon Fibre (and titanium) are actually used more for marketing reasons in consumer products then any real engineering property despite the BS. cheers Frank