Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2000/07/31
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]What a dilemma; a mint M4-2 which would be highly valued by collectors, but which would be poor as a photo taking camera, or a beat up used M4-P which will have had all the problems ironed out, but uselss as a collectable! Dan C. At 08:27 AM 31-07-00 -0600, John Collier wrote: >The lack of commercial success for the M5, the decline in sales of >rangefinder cameras in general and the rising labour cost in Germany led >Leitz to decide to discontinue the M line. Walter Kluck, CEO at the time of >Leitz's Canadian subsidiary where most of the M lenses were made, knew that >Leitz Canada would be hit hard by the loss of M business. He fought for >continuing the production of the M camera and had the manufacturing >equipment moved from Germany to Canada where labour costs were substantially >cheaper. Some of the M production staff also moved over to Canada. The >camera was redesigned to reduce costs and to modernise it as well. For >example the selftimer was eliminated, the film counter simplified and a hot >shoe and a coupling for a winder were added. There were a lot of teething >problems in setting up production in Canada and the early M4-2 cameras had a >great deal of problems. They were sorted out and later M4-2 cameras were >very reliable. How should this affect your decision to buy an M4-2? If it is >a later production camera, or a M4-P, do not worry about it as the bugs had >been worked out by then. If it is an early camera that has seen moderate to >hard use, do not worry as the bugs would have been straightened out in >warranty and maintenance repairs. If it is an early camera in mint or mint - >condition, I would not buy it as the problems will not have been dealt with. >One of our illustrious members had a strap eyelet come away from an early >M4-2 camera resulting in an unfortunate rocky landing which destroyed his >lens as well! All covered under warranty though! > >John Collier > >sources: Leica Photography 6/98, pg. 18-19; and, Popular Photography July, >1980, starting at pg. 121 > > >> From: "Julian Thomas" <mimesis@btinternet.com> >> Reply-To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us >> Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 12:51:52 +0100 >> To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us> >> Subject: [Leica] M4-2 >> >> Can anyone tell me why the M4-2 is often reviled? I've just had a chance to >> take my recentlyCLA'd M4-2 out and I love it - I much prefer to my M6. The >> shutter release is so much more positive and need so little travel. With a >> softie it is perfect. The M6 feels slacker for some reason. OTO at least I >> could get a backup fairly cheaply! >> >> Julian >> > > >