Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2000/07/31

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Subject: [Leica] Leica vs. new RFs vs. SLR
From: "Peter A. Klein" <pklein@2alpha.net>
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 13:50:41 -0700
References: <200007300701.AAA27397@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>

> "Miro Jurcevic" <miroj@ozemail.com.au> says:

> The physics are against you all the way. First the mirror goes clunk and
> shakes the entire casting. Then in the SLR versions, two shutter curtains
> move at hundreds of K's per hour in a fraction of a second. That's enough to
> move the camera.
> 
> No matter what your human body is doing, the camera body, unless it is M*,
> is doing a cha-cha all over the place. The difference only shows above 8' x
> 10' and then it is a seriuosly limiting factor in image size.

This brings up something I've been wondering about.  Leicas have a
single cloth shutter.  SLRs have a shutter plus a mirror, plus an
automatic diaphragm.  Vibration from the mirror and diaphragm has often
been cited as the reason why many people can use an RF at least one
shutter speed notch slower than an SLR.  Gary Reese's lens test of
Olympus Zuiko lenses showed this principle dramatically--the same lenses
tested better with mirror lockup and diaphragm prefire than without
them.  See http://members.aol.com/olympusom/lenstests/default.htm.

So how about the new Konica Hexar RF and Voigtlander/Cosina Bessa R? 
The Bessa uses an additional shutter as a light cap, and a noisier Copal
shutter.  Does this cause any appreciable vibration?  How about the
Hexar RF?  Perhaps this is a good excuse for one of our empiricists to
test the same lens (normal or medium tele), target and film on a Leica
M, a Bessa and a Hexar, and see what the results are.

Reductio ad absurdum (sp?):  Perhaps we should all ditch our Leicas, and
start using leaf shutter cameras like the old interchangeable-lens Kodak
Retinas.  Or lobby Solms to bring back the Compur-Leica in M mount :-) 
Or maybe put a leaf shutter in the Tri-Elmar!

- --Peter Klein
Seattle, WA

Replies: Reply from Dante A Stella <dante@umich.edu> (Re: [Leica] Leica vs. new RFs vs. SLR)