Fw: [Leica] Portra 400 BW (Was: Film Demise)

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From: "onetreehillclw" <onetreehillclw@compaq.net>
To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2001 9:30 PM
Subject: Re: [Leica] Portra 400 BW (Was: Film Demise)


> Does Kodak really need 3 b&w C-41 on the market?
> Looks like they still can't get it right. Ilford is still tops.
> Can't stand printing the Kodak C-41(in my darkroom).
> XP2 is still the best. And for making it easier to print the
> new Kodak Portra B&W on machines, I'd like to see it when
> I get a chance. I don't have to color correct XP2 on the Noritsu 2301 but
I
> do have to color correct(making it look black n white) Kodak CN. And this
is
> printed on Kodak paper(Royal 8---it sucks!!!!!) and using Kodak chemicals.
>          It's all another scheme for the Kodak users to spend more
$$$$$$$$.
> And of course, Kodak suckers everybody in. Let's look at those machine
> prints again 20 yrs from now.
> Magenta color would be my guess. And the photographer gets
> his money and the family suffer from low quality prints!!!!!!
>
> My thoughts............
> Chris Williams
> XP2 for life or until XP3 comes out!!!!!!
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "henry" <henry@henryambrose.com>
> To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
> Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2001 9:28 AM
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Portra 400 BW (Was: Film Demise)
>
>
> > I think you are right. The whole reason for the existence is this film
is
> > so that wedding guys can offer a "black& white" service and still have
> > all their film and prints run on a machine. The images will look like
B&W
> > to the bride and her mother. And look like faded crap in 25 years. At
> > this level it makes perfect sense. But why would I want to pay double
> > price for a roll of film if I don't work this way? I already have XP2
and
> > its cheap and excellent quality.
> >
> > Its more about Kodak getting your money than it is about anything else.
> > Short circuiting craft and art.
> >
> > That said I'd like to hear your impressions of the film when you get a
> > chance.
> >
> > Henry
> >
> >
> > >Calumet has it for $7.00 @ roll in the 36/36exp-5 roll pack. Wonder
what
> B&H
> > >wants for it.
> > >One good point on the stuff from the Pro Portrait Photographers stand
> point
> > >is that it is become
> > >damn hard to find anyone to do finishing in black and white-almost a
dead
> > >art for retouchers
> > >and print finishers. I think this will be welcome by a lot of people if
> the
> > >stuff is any good. If it
> > >works like the other portra films it could be very good. Will test and
> post
> > >some of the results.
> > >Would be great for wedding PJ work and they say that it has a latitude
> from
> > >asa 50 to 1600.
> > >We shall see.
> > >Cheers Wilber Jeffcoat
> > >www.jeffcoatphotography.com
>