Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2001/04/25

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Subject: Re: [Leica] A Leica ChallengeTO KICK B. D. ;-)
From: "B. D. Colen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net>
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 17:42:03 -0400
References: <F17203C79991D4119B3900805F9A6BD009111E@pie-main.piengr.com>

Tom Finnegan wrote:
> 
> .
> 
> Arrival - 35/1.4
> I would have preferred either a slightly wider view with more of the Mother
> and the person holding the infant, or a closer shot of just the infant and
> hands
> 
CORRECT  - The lens guess, not the analysis. ;-)


> Mother - 20/2.8
> The cut off foot bothers me a bit, I would have liked the frame shifted down
> slightly

CORRECT on the lens
> 
> Juggling - 85/1.4
> I might have liked a view slighly shifted to the left to get a bit of the
> baby's face and put the mother against the light background

Wrong - 28 1.4 Nikon
> 
> Take My Picture - 85/1.4
> The hand sticking out of the kid's head ruins it for me

WRONG - 35 1.4 Summilux ASPH - 

> 
> TV - 50/1.5
> Shift slightly to the right, also the father looks to be blinking

WRONG - 35 1.4
> 
> Sisters - 75/1.4
> take the shot from a tiny bit further back to get the tip of the chair back
> and the one foot of the gal on the right

WRONG - 85 1.4


> Secrets - 180/2.8
> the tops of the glasses and straw (?) are distracting, maybe a shot from a
> slightly higher perspective (stand on a chair) could clean it up a bit
> 

WRONG -85 1.4


> Over Tired - 85/1.4
> take one step to the right to eliminate the other young girls arm and the
> dark object on the right(dresser?)

CORRECT
> 
> Reading - 28/1.4
> I find the chopped off feet slightly annoying and I don't care for the yawn
> , with the highlights blown out it looks like some kind of freaky porcelain
> doll


> 
> Nick and Opus - 21/2.8
> I don't like the chopped off head, and I don't care for crotch shot
> perspective, perhaps shot from a bit to the right or from a slightly higher
> viewpoint

CORRECT

> New Dad - 35/1.4
> without the title I wouldn't have a clue as to what was in the bin, you need
> to get in closer
> 

You're probably right as to the lens, although I think it may have been
the 21
>
 Mars and Venus - 20/2.8
> shift frame up a bit to get less empty table and more ceiling where the
> light is now cut off, also maybe shift slighlty to the right or move a bit
> to get more of the gal on the right, what is going on here?
> 

WRONG - 28 1.4

> Flower Girls - 60/2.8
> shift frame up slightly to get top of door frame and tell the two yahoos in
> the background to get out of the picture

WRONG 85 1,4

> Fairy Princess - 35/1.4
> the bright out-of-focus object on the left is a bit ditracting

CORRECT

> Center of Attention - 20/2.8
> back up just a tad to get the baby's fingertips and feet as well as the
> ladies head

CORRECT

> Close - 60/2.8
> This is probably my favorite, my only suggestion might be to play around
> with toning down the bright spot between the boys

CORRECT

> Chasing Rex - 28/1.4
> hard to tell what the heck is going on here, the area around the kids and
> dog(?) looks blotchy, was this dodged?

WRONG - 21 ASPH
 
> Big Brother - 28/1.4
> shift frame up a bit to get all of the trike in the background and perhaps
> just a fraction to the right, good action shot

WRONG - 85 1.4

> Napping - 75/1.4
> shift perspective a bit to the left to get some of the baby's eyes and face

WRONG - 35 1.4

> Alicia - 75/1.4
> shift perspective to a slightly higher viewpoint to eliminate some of the
> oof blanket (?) in the foreground that is so annoying

WRONG - 85 1.4

 
> After Dinner - 50/1.5
> back up a half step and shift a bit to the left so that the lamp isn't
> sticking out of the one gals head, and the gals foot on the right isn't
> chopped off

WRONG - 85 1.4
 
> Minus One - 21/2.8
> without the title I'd be hard pressed to know what was happening, looks like
> just a record shot of who was there, maybe shift frame slightly to the left
> and back up half a step to get a bit of the ceiling in

CORRECT - I think, but it may have been the 35.
> 
> Farewell - 35/1.4
> again can't really tell what the heck is going on, you need to move to one
> side or the other to get a better view of the casket, small boy (?) and
> three women

CORRECT
> 
> Ok, so had I do?
> 
> Tom Finnegan
> Seattle

You can see how you did - pretty poorly for someone with such strong
opinions about how given photographs should be taken and what would make
them better. 

Now I know I it's bush of me to get annoyed at the kind of "constructive
criticism" you've so freely provided. And I know that when I post photos
I ask for feed back. So you are, of course, entitled to your opinions of
the photos. BUT - Given your admission of having very little
photographic experience, I'd suggest throwing away the books and the art
101 course and getting out and spending 15 hours with a family, or 17
hours in a labor/delivery room, or attempting to take photos at a
funeral without outraging those whose loved one has died, and then look
at your photos and see if they are shot "correctly" by the standards you
set here.

B. D.

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