Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2002/09/18
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Peter - I don't believe anyone has contended that the rangefinder flare problem is related to any of the cameras you mention. It is an M6-M7 problem, which, if I'm not mistaken, means that it probably appeared with the M4-2. If my memory serves me right, Erwin at some point said that the rangefinder internal configuration changed after the M4. This is not a problem of the imagination, nor is it one of eye position - although eye position can aggravate it: It is a design flaw, and one that Leica should have fixed years ago. B. D. - -----Original Message----- From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us]On Behalf Of Peter Klein Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 9:29 PM To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us Subject: Re: [Leica] finder flare Steve: John Collier's observations and mine agree. I have never encountered the RF flare problem in any M2, M3 or M4 camera I've tried, including the M2 I owned in the 70s. All rangefinders can either white out or disappear if you look through them sufficiently cockeyed, but what everyone complains about is decidedly a post-M4 phenomenon. I think you are right about people's eyes making a difference. I have worn glasses all my life. Last year, I got contacts. All of a sudden I got a different perspective on the RF flare problem. My eyes are fairly deep-set relative to my eyebrows. I could never see all of the 35mm frame in a standard .72x viewfinder with glasses. I also noticed that people's advice about the RF flare--"shift your eye slightly and it goes away"--didn't apply to me. If I shifted my eye slightly I couldn't see even the 50mm frame. Then I got contacts. All of a sudden I could see a 35mm frame, and I could shift my eye to get rid of (or at least reduce) most cases of RF flare. Being closer to the eyepiece, I had more "wiggle room." The flare caused by oblique light striking the illuminator window is really annoying. I have found that I can often reduce it enough to focus by shifting my eye. But sometimes it just makes focusing impossible. For this situation, Lutz Konermann's "The Shade" is the best solution I've found. As someone else noted, it does dim the viewfinder frame lines, particularly on the right side (but not the RF itself). This can also be annoying, but at least one can focus. In daylight, The Shade can only help, and there's enough ambient light that the framelines will be OK on all but the grayest days. Indoors, with light bulbs all over the place, it will also help, but you may lose the vertical frameline on the right. When I wear glasses, "The Shade" is usually stuck on my illuminator window. Now that I mostly wear contacts, I keep "The Shade" in my bag, and stick it on when I need it. When the sticky surface gives out, I just peel off the double-sided tape on the back and put a new piece on. I've also experimented with a red gel over the illuminator window. This made the flare a different color than what I mostly focus on, and hence easier to see through or eliminated by eye shifting. But I never got used to red frame lines--just seemed too weird. I too am awaiting Leica's supposed solution to the flare problem, and what they do (or don't) will influence a future purchase decision. It only took them 20 years(!) - --Peter Klein Seattle, WA >On Monday, September 16, 2002, at 11:02 AM, Steve LeHuray wrote: > > > I have been wondering about the dreaded M flare for several years now, > > wondering because flare has never occured with any of my Ms (2 M2s, > > M3, 2 > > M6TTLs). Many others have also have no flare problems. Could it have > > something to do with the difference in peoples eyes? Could it be there > > is a > > correct and incorrect way to look through the viewfinder? - -- To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html - -- To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html