Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2002/10/29
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Sonny, Excellent comment!! Keep up the good work every week. sl > The people who doggedly post a picture each week inspire me, It takes > lots of courage for them to put their work here in front Leica > photographers, not to mention self-discipline to maintain those pages. > I admire everyone who posts. > > That tenacity challenged me, and I started posting pictures myself. I > am now up to 71 weeks. Sometimes people say nice things about my > pictures, sometimes they seem to ignore them. My website, (which is > primarily about the PAW) is at about 8000 visits a month or 66,000 > hits. > > I know he was not the originator of the idea, but it was Kyle Cassidy > who asked the rhetorical question, "Do I deserve this camera?" > > Here I was with several thousands of dollars worth of Leica gear and I > was shooting stuff that could have been shot with as you put it, "a > $70 point and shoot camera." > > So why is the PAW an answer to Kyle's question for me? > > I don't shoot or post pictures for the strokes, or for the criticism. > I post them, on a schedule, to make sure that I get out there and take > pictures. I do it so that I will take myself seriously when I go out, > knowing that I have a deadline, knowing that I expect to fill up > another years worth of shots. > > If you let me know you like a shot, I'll appreciate it. If you hate > something about it, and let me know that the shot misses the mark for > some technical or aesthetic reason, I'll appreciate it, but I will not > stop. > > The picture of the week project mostly documenting my little part of > the earth has become an important part of my life, and I do it for me. > > Sonny > http://www.sonc.com > > >> Subject: [Leica] PAW -- Criticism or Stroking? >> >> >> I'm new to posting, having been a "lurker" for quite awhile due to > my >> fear of >> weighing in on various issues and being torn apart (however well >> intentioned) >> by far more knowledgeable members of LUG. But there seems to be a > lack >> of, >> shall we say, intensity with respect to review and comment on PAWs. > I'll >> be >> blunt -- I've seen a large number of PAWs that are, at best, > mediocre, >> almost >> snapshots at a backyard barbeque that could have been taken with a > $70 >> point >> and shoot camera. Yet, the comments for such works include things > like >> "great >> shot" or "wonderful image." Even allowing for differences in taste, > the >> feedback on the PAWs seems remarkably consistent, and overwhelmingly >> positive. Sure, its nice to encourage folks, and it isn't easy to > submit >> >> anything for public scrutiny, especially by the extremely talented > and >> knowledgeable people who contribute to this group on a regular > basis. I >> wouldn't submit my work because, quite frankly, I don't think it is > yet >> at a >> level where it should be shown, nay, inflicted on the general > public, >> let >> alone the experts here. >> >> Don't get me wrong, lots of PAWs are amazing -- almost life > transforming >> -- >> but others, well, its almost like "point a Leica at it and submit > it." >> Should >> we all bite our tongues at the latter sort and keep silent, or offer >> encouraging "strokes," or should we be honest (but always > respectful) >> and >> honestly present constructive criticism? Again, I don't want to > belittle >> >> those who have the courage and confidence to submit PAWs, but I need >> clarification -- are we here to review and critique in constructive >> fashion, >> or simply to validate with hollow "attaboys" yet another submission > of >> someone's wife or daughter by the pool, or colorful locals sitting >> around a >> cafe in some foreign locale? I don't want to offend anybody, I'm > just >> wondering what the ground rules are. >> >> Many thanks to all for the wisdom the have provided, and continue to >> provide >> on this site. >> >> Ellis Krane >> -- >> To unsubscribe, see > http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html >> >> -- >> To unsubscribe, see > http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html > > -- > To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html > - -- To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html