Re: [Leica] Constructive Criticism

["\(SonC\) Sonny Carter" <sonc@sonc.com>]

Aw, Jerry, it is a thread!  keep up!

Sonny


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From: "Jerry Lehrer" <jerryleh@pacbell.net>
To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 9:01 PM
Subject: Re: [Leica] Constructive Criticism


> Ted
>
> Y'know, I really don't know to whom Sonny's comments were addressed.
>
> Jerry
>
> Ted Grant wrote:
>
> > Sonny Carter admitted:
> >
> > >>> You have, on a rare occassion, pissed me off with your comments, but
I
> > do
> > > know that they were delivered in a hope of helping me, and I took them
as
> > > such.<<<,
> >
> > And that's Sonny's way as a pro re-acting and accepting the comments of
> > another pro. Man if it weren't for the photo pro brethern and sistern
I'd be
> > a poor example of a photographer if I sloughed off their criticism and
just
> > dismissed it.
> >
> > Even today after all these years, I live in fear of what fellow pros
will
> > say when I show new material... ( certainly that which I think is really
> > cool,) :-)   It's what their comments will be, as they can be very
> > intimidating, particularly when they start, "Well I think, uuummmmm.  "
And
> > your heart goes thumpity thump waitng for the brick to fall! Scary as
all
> > get out! :-(
> >
> > Then a comment is made and you think, "Son of a gun why didn't I see
that
> > when I was cropping or printing?" And your open response is, "Hey thank
you,
> > as I didn't see that or think of it in that manner."  And they make you
look
> > like a better photographer. And that is what critique is all about,
whether
> > some of you believe that or not. Even when you get reemed out or your
ass
> > kicked! It's meant for your own benefit. :-)
> >
> > Photography is a never ending learning process no matter who one is or
years
> > of experience. So if you're into photography with your heart and soul,
get
> > ready to always have someone point out an improvement no matter how
simple
> > it maybe..... as they do it to make you a better photographer.
> >
> > >>> Then you have the guy who simply comments, "That's the worst picture
> > I've
> > > ever seen."  Truth is, we get lots of good shots here, and no one
comments
> > > either way, certainly not with candor and knowledge of the craft.<<<<<
> >
> > I know we've heard that before, "no comment." And that leaves the
> > photographer wondering... "is my picture that good they don't need to
> > comment?"  Or... "my picture is so bad no one wants to hurt my
feelings?"
> > And this is a tough call for me, hell I'm not afraid to kick ass nor
give
> > pats on the back. But in reality one has real world work to do and even
> > though I look at many pictures, they get a glance and click. Only
because I
> > don't have time to either look at them all and I certainly don't have
the
> > time to comment good, bad or ugly.
> >
> > And in the case of Sandy and myself being on the road for the better
part of
> > Jan-Feb-Mar.shooting, there isn't hope I'll ever see all the posts, let
> > alone make comment on pictures.
> >
> > >>>> I don't have the miles on the odometer you do, but after 40 years
with
> > a
> > > camera I'm considered an old guy myself by the likes of John Strauss,
but
> > > hey, even KyleCassidy is getting to be an old fart, he admitted that
to me
> > > today!<<<<<
> >
> > Cassidy is getting to be an old fart? ;-) Damn with all those sexy
chicks
> > around him all the time, he'd better get over that feeling very quickly
or
> > he's in deep trouble. ;-) An "old fart indeed!" Like holy blue blazes
not
> > for another 40 years at least! :-)
> > ted
> >
> > Ted Grant Photography Limited
> > www.islandnet.com/~tedgrant
> >
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