Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2003/01/17

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Subject: [Leica] Re: Leica Product Quality??
From: "Greg J. Lorenzo" <gregj.lorenzo@shaw.ca>
Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 23:28:54 -0700
References: <NABBLIJOIFAICKBIEPJJEECDDLAB.darkroom@ix.netcom.com> <000701c2be71$32051150$0200a8c0@lightningp4>

I've read lots of these type of posts recently complaining about 
manufacturing quality of Leica lenses and bodies.

All I can say is that this baffles me as I have never had a single 
problem so far with any lens, body or Leica accessory I've owned with 
the exception of a missing red dot on a pre ASPH 35mm/2.

I own both LTM, M and R cameras and lenses. Even the one time notorious 
R8. All problem free! The IIIG and Summitar 50 I bought in early 
December are 48 and 53 years respectively. The previous owner had kept 
both items in a safe for more than two decades. I'm amazed at the 
results I'm getting from this lens (now that I know it doesn't handle 
flare very well) and the shutter speeds from 1 second to 1,000 seconds 
seem to be bang on.

Am I very much an exception and all alone in this regards or are there 
other list members who have not had such problems?

Regards,

Greg

Don R. wrote:

>You asked about the metal work on the 135 APO.
>
>The f/stop ring flops around like it was made and fitted by an 8th grade
>shop class  dropout.  I have to be extremely cautious or the slightest touch
>will move the f/stop setting.The current Leica metal work sucks compared to
>the Leitz metal work.
>
>The pressure plate in the one and only M6 I ever bought was so poorly
>finished it scratched the film. I set it up on a diamond lap and lapped it
>till is was FLAT and SMOOTH.
>
>The only thing one can say now days about a Leica is it is slightly better
>finished than its competitors. Fortunately, the name Leitz has been removed
>so that family's name will not be sullied by the current lack of care.
>
>It is very difficult to replace former members of the German military
>service who had a tremendous work ethic and pride in their work with the
>current day vacationers who spend a huge amount of their time away from the
>work bench.  Thank goodness for CNC equipment and molds that shape the APO
>lenses without human intervention.
>
>At one time there was pride in ownership when you owned a Leitz Leica.  Now
>the mass production and off-shore sourcing has removed that source of pride,
>at least for this writer.
>
>Don R.
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Austin Franklin" <darkroom@ix.netcom.com>
>To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
>Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 2:27 PM
>Subject: RE: [Leica] Opinions/comments on 135/3.4 APO Telyt M lense...
>
>
>>>My beef is the metal work looks like it was done in pre-WWII Japan.
>>>
>>Don,
>>
>>Would you please elaborate on that?  It looks just like the other
>>lenses...90/2, 75/1.4, 50/1.4 as far as "metalwork" goes...
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>Austin
>>
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Replies: Reply from Christer Almqvist <chris@almqvist.net> ([Leica] Re: Leica Product Quality??)
In reply to: Message from "Austin Franklin" <darkroom@ix.netcom.com> (RE: [Leica] Opinions/comments on 135/3.4 APO Telyt M lense...)
Message from "Don R." <don.ro@verizon.net> (Re: [Leica] Opinions/comments on 135/3.4 APO Telyt M lense...)