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Subject: Re: [Leica] FS: Special Anti-War Protest edition Leica M7
From: Javier Perez <summarex@yahoo.com>
Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 10:00:23 -0800 (PST)

I don't know how qualified they can be when they
resort to simplYstic and childish rhetoric such as
"He's gassed his own people" or "Sadam is trying to
weasel his way out of his obligations" This is the
kind of crap I expect from propagandists not experts!
It's no trivial matter either. Opinion polls which
have to be favourable before an attack reflect the
views instilled on the public by the idiots who appear
on the news shows. As for Buchanan and Press, they are
both oppised to this thing and take people to task
when they hear this type of crap.
Javier




- --- Jerry Lehrer <jerryleh@pacbell.net> wrote:
> Javier
> 
> Some of those anal-ists are pretty well qualified.
> Lots of
> top brass who fought in Desert Storm 1, but were
> stopped
> by Dubbyas dad.
> 
> There is plenty of  "that sort of crap", as you put
> it, on
> Buchanan & Press, which is on right now.
> 
> Jerry
> 
> Javier Perez wrote:
> 
> > Howdy
> > What really gets me are the institute qualified
> > military and middle east "analysts", who describe
> > Iraq's actions in terms of he or sadam! You'd
> think
> > professional reputation would mean something when
> > you're on tv but I guess not.
> > There is one show I can live with, Buchanan and
> Press
> > at 2pm eastern on msnbc is about the only place
> where
> > you won't hear that sort of crap. Sometimes that
> > hardball guy is ok as well.
> > Javier
> >
> > --- Daniel Ridings <daniel.ridings@muspro.uio.no>
> > wrote:
> > > Kit,
> > > DO you get any coverage that isn't biased? This
> > > isn't intended to be
> > > provocative. I'm really curious. To me all the
> media
> > > reflects the owners
> > > you list below.
> > >
> > > Notice how they just hate Al-Jazira ... a
> powerful,
> > > just as unbiased (as
> > > any American media) that doesn't reflect their
> > > interests.
> > >
> > > Daniel
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, 17 Feb 2003, Kit McChesney | acmefoto
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Well, given who owns most of the major media
> > > (General Electric for NBC,
> > > > AOLTimeWarner for CNN, Disney for ABC, Viacom
> for
> > > CBS), it's a wonder we get
> > > > any coverage that isn't biased.
> > > >
> > > > Kit
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> > > >
> [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us]On
> > > Behalf Of bdcolen
> > > > Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 12:05 PM
> > > > To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> > > > Subject: RE: [Leica] FS: Special Anti-War
> Protest
> > > edition Leica M7
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > No, Austin, I'm not kidding. Virtually anyone
> and
> > > everyone who has been
> > > > watching the media with any care since 9.11
> has
> > > noted how timid even
> > > > publications such as the Washington Post and
> > > NYTimes have been in this
> > > > climate in which anyone who criticises the
> > > administration is considered
> > > > "unpatriotic."
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> > > >
> [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us]
> > > On Behalf Of Austin
> > > > Franklin
> > > > Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 12:16 PM
> > > > To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> > > > Subject: RE: [Leica] FS: Special Anti-War
> Protest
> > > edition Leica M7
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > B.D.,
> > > >
> > > > > first, caution
> > > > > (timidity) on the part of the media, fearing
> > > that if they err on the
> > > > > side of siting too large a number, they will
> > > lose credibility with the
> > > >
> > > > > "establishment;"
> > > >
> > > > You are, of course, kidding, right?
> > > >
> > > > Austin
> > > >
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