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Subject: Re: [Leica] OT: Unhealthy Crouching Attitudes.
From: Bill Satterfield <cwsat@istate.net>
Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 16:22:51 -0600
References: <NDEIJCBGJPIEPDFEENCMMEMBCIAA.kitmc@acmefoto.com>

What do you look like? Please post a photograph. I am sure the other LUG 
members would like to see what you look like. Most of us being males, it 
is only natural.

Kit McChesney | acmefoto wrote:

>Bill--
>
>You do flatter me. Thanks. I already write quite a bit, and not just here
>(and it's more interesting writing, too!). I write for a living (this isn't
>my "living" just yet), and for my own pleasure, and have published,
>published others' work, shown my own work, shown others' work, taught
>writing, art history, women's studies, at the university level, and all
>kinds of things. That's probably why I don't fit the stereotypical profile of
>"camera dealer." That's just one of the many fun things I do on a daily
>basis. It's something I do that's great fun, mostly for the contact it
>allows me to have with really fun folks--like you guys, among others!
>
>It's all material for the pen, the pencil, and the camera. Kinda like life!
>;-)
>
>Kit
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
>[mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us]On Behalf Of Bill
>Satterfield
>Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 1:56 PM
>To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
>Subject: Re: [Leica] OT: Unhealthy Crouching Attitudes.
>
>
>Seriously Kit, you should write a book and include  the subject matters
>you have given advice and insight into on  the LUG. Whether it be
>photography, computer techniques, Leicas etc.. Not meaning any
>disrespect, in my opinion, you would be a John Collier, a BD Colen and a
>Ted Grant all rolled into one. You also possess good writing skills and
>are able to convey your thoughts. :-)
>
>Kit McChesney | acmefoto wrote:
>
>>Actually, Niepce created photographs using light-sensitive paper of his own
>>manufacture, and Fox-Talbot used paper soaked in silver chloride to create
>>
>a
>
>>paper negative and then contact-printed the paper negatives onto
>>photosensitive paper. Those were his Calotypes, patented in 1841.
>>
>>So it would have been more than possible for someone in 1851 to be aware of
>>Fox-Talbot's calotypes, and Niepce's status as the inventor of the first
>>photograph was probably as well-known. Artists of the day were very aware
>>
>of
>
>>"developments" in photography.
>>
>>Daguerre's images were created on silver-plated copper that was treated
>>
>with
>
>>silver iodide and developed using mercury. Glass came into use around 1851
>>when Archer developed the wet collodion emulsion that was spread over
>>
>sheets
>
>>of glass.
>>
>>Kit
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
>>[mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us]On Behalf Of Wesson, Leo
>>W
>>Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 12:17 PM
>>To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
>>Subject: RE: [Leica] OT: Unhealthy Crouching Attitudes.
>>
>>
>>Jerry,
>>
>>Daguerre shot on mirrored metal plates, not glass.
>>
>>Leo
>>
>>>----------
>>>From: 	Jerry Lehrer
>>>Reply To: 	leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
>>>Sent: 	Tuesday, February 18, 2003 12:58 PM
>>>To: 	leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
>>>Subject: 	Re: [Leica] OT: Unhealthy Crouching Attitudes.
>>>
>>>Jeff
>>>
>>>Very good, but I doubt that those early photographers ever fixed
>>>their images on paper.  They used glass plates for the positive
>>>images.
>>>
>>>But it is still funny!  Thanks.
>>>
>>>Jerry
>>>
>>>Jeff Moore wrote:
>>>
>>>>This came by in email, and I thought the assembled company might enjoy
>>>>it -- I don't recall its having been seen here before.  I can't vouch
>>>>for its authenticity...
>>>>
>>>>--------------------------------------
>>>>A LETTER TO "THE TIMES" (January 1851)
>>>>
>>>>Sir,
>>>>I beg to bring to your notice the serious harm likely to come from
>>>>the increasing popularity of photography. Since Mr. Talbot and
>>>>Mons. Daguerre perfected their processes for fixing a living image
>>>>on paper a few years ago, there has been an alarming increase in the
>>>>popularity of this un-natural pastime. The stage has now been reached
>>>>when permanent damage is likely to inflicted not only on paintings,
>>>>engravings and the arts in general, but upon industry, manners and the
>>>>home itself.
>>>>
>>>>Already, I have been informed, the fascinations of the photograph albums
>>>>are having their effect on thousands of children who could be better
>>>>employed in the pit or mill: and I can myself vouch unhappily from
>>>>my own family circle that idleness and vanity are encouraged by the
>>>>constant posing for portraits, and the subsequent poring over them in
>>>>unhealthy crouching attitudes.
>>>>
>>>>I beg to subscribe myself, Sir, your obedient servant,
>>>>Patrick Lawrence,
>>>>Old Vicarage, Shinfield, Berkshire
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