RE: [Leica] Autofocus Leica R

["Gerry Walden" <gwpics@ntlworld.com>]

I used to work as a health inspector responsible for the inspection of ships
and food imports in the major port of Southampton. Apart from other things
we used to have to board ships at sea (sometimes up to 250,000 tonnes) and
we also inspected all food imports into the port. It was decreed that we
MUST have a positive discrimination policy and employ people in wheelchairs
or blind people if they applied for work. When we argued that there was no
way that we could get a wheelchair onto a supertanker at sea, or that a
blind person could visually examine food, we were told we had to provide
facilities. Madness or what?

Sorry, I have gone totally off topic!

Gerry

Gerry Walden LRPS
www.gwpics.com

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From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
[mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us]On Behalf Of bdcolen
Sent: 12 March 2003 00:58
To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
Subject: RE: [Leica] Autofocus Leica R


Okay, I can't help myself...I am going to be totally politically
incorrect and ROFLOL! (And, yes, I've seen the book of photographs by
blind "photographers."

I know: I'm cruel. I have no imagination, blah, blah, blah, blah. Get a
grip, folks! Alternatively sighted people are BLIND. They CAN NOT SEE.
Photography is a VISUAL medium. It requires VISION.

I don't care if a blind person can point an autofocus camera at a
subject he or she hears and "take a picture." An Ape can do the same
thing, and I am not going to take Ape photography seriously either.

I know, I know, there are a bunch of Thai elephants that paint and a
bunch of nuts who pay allot of money for the paintings.

I'll tell you something, when I lose the remainder of my hearing - I now
suffer from moderate hearing loss in one ear and a severe lost in the
other, and wear two hearing aids, I am NOT going to apply for a job as a
freaking MUSIC critic! ;-)

B. D.

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From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
[mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of Kit
McChesney | acmefoto
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 7:37 PM
To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
Subject: RE: [Leica] Autofocus Leica R


Speaking of photographers with poor eyesight, or even more amazing,
photographers who are legally or functionally blind, Aperture just
published last year a gorgeous book on the subject of blind
photographers, titled appropriately, Shooting Blind. It is a moving
volume, and poses some interesting questions about how we see, and what
we see. There are many blind photographers ... Evgen Bavcar, Flo Fox,
Gerardo Nigenda, among others. Bavcar has some interesting things to say
about the differences between the visual, and the visible.

"My task is the reunion of the visible and the invisible worlds;
photography allows me to pervert the established method of perception
amongst those who see and those who don't." ... and ...  "Each photo I
create must be perfectly ordered in my head before I shoot. I hold the
camera to my mouth in order to photograph those I speak to. Autofocus
helps me, but I can manage on my own: it is simple, my hands measure the
distance and the rest is achieved by the desire for images that inhabits
me."

I suspect that even with their visual difference ("seeing" differently
from most of the rest of the world) that not all blind or visually
impaired photographers use autofocus ... focus is not necessarily the
requisite hallmark of a photographic image. Don't we use the unfocused
as a tool of expression? What about bokeh? (Thanks, Mark R!)

Kit

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From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
[mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us]On Behalf Of John
Collier
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 4:27 PM
To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
Subject: Re: [Leica] Autofocus Leica R


I used to agree with Doug but have since run across a few people who
have such poor eyesight they need auto focus. Mind you that is not very
many people for the plethora of AF cameras out there...

No plans for AF here,

John Collier

On Tuesday, March 11, 2003, at 03:56 PM, Douglas Herr wrote:

> lea <lea@whinydogpress.com> wrote:
>
>> I'd be first in line to have one....
>
> The combination of an APO lens and an SL, SL2, R8 or R9 viewfinder
> makes focussing too easy to make AF worth discussing (IMHO).

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