Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2003/04/02

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Subject: Re: [Leica] x-tol replacement: Rodinal
From: "Don R." <don.ro@verizon.net>
Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 18:54:02 -0600
References: <000401c2f927$7ba7caf0$6401a8c0@YOURF68DMBR429> <000b01c2f932$29213b80$0200a8c0@lightning306> <3E8B3627.9B99E729@rabinergroup.com> <001901c2f961$68681230$0200a8c0@lightning306> <3E8B7674.D54170FC@rabinergroup.com>

Buetler provides excellent sharpness with Tri-X but since it did not erode
the grain, the grain was certainly visible.

Panatomic-X was my number one film when it was available.

Don R.
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Rabiner" <mark@rabinergroup.com>
To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 5:47 PM
Subject: Re: [Leica] x-tol replacement: Rodinal


> "Don R." wrote:
> >
> > Adding Potassium Iodide to the Buetler formula was Geoffry's addition,
as I
> > recall.
> >
> > Now that TEC is available, I just use that. Mike Tatem, the traveling
> > representative for ETHOL company told me the TEC formula was Buetler but
> > just a slightly different formulation.  I spent a lot of time playing
around
> > with the chemicals and finally hit pretty close to TEC and stopped
wasting
> > anymore time.
> >
> > Now that we don't have Panatomic-X, I am not sure what use it would
have.
> >
> > Don R.
> >
>
> Ah the magic wonders of Metol!
>
> but ask us for the generic name: P-Methylaminophenol Sulfate
> and not only will you NOT save any money;
> they will have NO CLUE as to what you're talking about!
>
> Also the sole reducer (developing agent) in D23 film developer.
>
> Also the sole reducer (developing agent) in Selectol-Soft paper developer.
> They took the hydroquinone out of that one too.
> Selectol-Soft gives the best print color than any paper developer I've
> ever used.
> Pure  P-Methylaminophenol Sulfate. No Phenidone, additives or artificial
colorings.
>
> I even very much enjoy the COLOR that my negs I develop in Beutlers or
> D23 have. They look purplish selenium toned.
> And the smooth tonality.
>
> Don! those days i almost always used Panatomic.
> Now-a-days I use a full gamut of 100,400, and 1600 speeds. All Neopan by
> the way.
> Are you saying Beutler's only good for the slow stuff? I don't recall
> that and seem to recall I'd used it with Tri x a few times.
>
>
> Monol Rhodiner
> Portland, Oregon USA
> http://www.rabinergroup.com
>
> Also known as
> Armol
> DD-4
> Elon
> Genol
> Graphol
> p-Hydroxymethylaniline Sulfate
> Methylaminophenol Sulfate
> Metol
> Monomethyl-p-Amino-Phenol Sulfate
> Monol
> Pertol
> Photol
> Photo-Rex
> Pictol
> Planetol
> Rhodol
> Satrapol
> Scalol
> Vera
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In reply to: Message from "Oliver Bryk" <oliverbryk@attbi.com> ([Leica] x-tol replacement: Rodinal)
Message from "Don R." <don.ro@verizon.net> (Re: [Leica] x-tol replacement: Rodinal)
Message from Mark Rabiner <mark@rabinergroup.com> (Re: [Leica] x-tol replacement: Rodinal)
Message from "Don R." <don.ro@verizon.net> (Re: [Leica] x-tol replacement: Rodinal)
Message from Mark Rabiner <mark@rabinergroup.com> (Re: [Leica] x-tol replacement: Rodinal)