Re: [Leica] The Tri-Elmar flare thing

[Henry Ting <henryting10@yahoo.com>]

Nice comment and we appreciate straight shooters, even
to our Leicas.

- --- Seth Rosner <sethrosner@direcway.com> wrote:
> Good morning breakfast-luggers! See below.
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Dan States" <dstate1@hotmail.com>
> To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
> Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 8:17 PM
> Subject: [Leica] The Tri-Elmar flare thing
> 
> 
> > Sorry to rehash a subject, but I have been out of
> town for a few days and
> > did not get a chance to respond during the
> discussion about the tri-elmar.
> >
> > Yes indeed, the Tri Elmar does have a flare
> problem.  In particular at the
> > 50mm setting.  I have a stack of slides that were
> trash because of the
> > unpredictable nature of this lens at the 50mm
> setting.
> >
> > What was baffling to me was that the flare occured
> in shots that would not
> > normally be a problem for most modern lenses.
> >
> > I found that hazy/bright days gave the tri elmar
> fits.
> 
> "Flare is very well controlled and its absence,
> especially when specular
> highlights are in the picture, enhances the clarity
> and crispness of the
> overall image and the rendition of depth and
> textural clarity."
> 
> Thus sayeth Erwin Puts about the Tri-Elmar in his
> Leica Lens Compendium, at
> page 135.
> 
> > It was this nasty traight along with a ton of
> distortion at 28mm that made
> > me give up my TE.  The fact that these issues have
> not been more of an
> issue
> > with the LUG and especially with Erwin Puts  has
> suprised me.  How the TE
> is
> > constantly refered to as one of Leicas "best"
> really has me stumped.  Am I
> > too picky?  Are most users not seeing the problem
> in the snapshots they
> are
> > getting back from walmart?
> 
> "As a general conclusion one may say that the
> performance [of the Tri-Elmar]
> is outstanding when compared to the current 28, 35
> and 50mm  Leica lenses at
> their 1:4 setting, and like it or not, the Tri-Elmar
> is better than most of
> the previous generations of the 28, 35 and 50mm
> Leica lenses."
> 
> Guess who? Compendium, same page.
> 
> Rubbish! rubbish! rubbish!!! This may be literally
> accurate if Puts intends
> to include in "previous generations of ... Leica
> lenses" those produced
> pre-WWII or immediately thereafter. But the clear
> implication is that he
> means all lenses preceding current production.
> 
> Show me any way in which the T-E comes close to the
> 1956 50/2 Summicron. Or
> the 1969 six-glass 50/2 at any aperture. Or the 1979
> pre-ASPH 35/2 Summicron
> at any aperture. (I've never used a Leitz/Leica
> 28mm).
> 
> Misleading? Deliberate?
> 
> Case closed.
> 
> Dan's experience and that of others may explain why
> Leica is slicing these
> lenses in half and selling half-a-lens as a
> collectors item.
> 
> > Best wishes
> > Dan States
> > Grand Forks  (Americas wonderland) ND
> 
> Thanks, Dan.
> 
> Seth              LaK 9
> 
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