Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2003/04/27
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Ernie wrote: Carl - thanks for the inside scoop. it is tough to be competitive in the film world when everyone is saying that the medium is dead, going to be dead. I harbor no illusions that Ilford ( which is really International Paper) wouldn't do what Kodak is doing if they needed to. It's just that so far Ilford has stayed consistent for several years now, no Xtol debacle etc. ___________________________________ Yeah, I used Ilford back when B&W was my thing (20 years ago), and poverty forced me to have one film at a time, which I bought in 100' rolls. For some reason FP4 always gave me better results than Plus X - smoother gradations, very sharp. Worked great in Rodinal. Ditto HP5, though I didn't really form a preference for it over Tri X. I like to pick a film that's good and stick with it and learn it. Whenever I bounced around with different stuff my work sucked. Same with a camera (haven't used a Nikon since getting the Leica). Since I'm only shooting for myself it's a luxury I can get away with. Back then, we had Kodacolor II or Vericolor and they were great. (At least the old negs I've scanned look fine, almost as good as my favorite Reala.) Now, Kodak tries to make and market NC, VC, someotherC, Supra, Blah blah, all in multiple speeds. No wonder they're going broke. If the future is to scan film and make prints (chemical or whatever) from files, than why not make one film at each speed with a neutral pallet and do the "look" in software? Transparencies are a different story, but for color neg, which is so flexible, I don't see the point in offering such specialized emulsions - none of which seem as good for general purpose work as Fuji's one product. Then, there's Kodak's absurd, confusing, suicidal marketing of consumer films. Marketing by function ("versatility") is stupid. You don't build loyalty and trust to something called Versatility or Gold. You trust something called Kodacolor, Kodachrome, Kodanothingbetterontheplanet. You married your wife named Barbara. You didn't fall in love with her Social Security number. Jeez!! And, aren't you likely to say, "but I liked your hair before" when she changes it for no apparent reason? Now the Royals are gone - the only consumer film they made which most people considered decent - because it was overpriced. And now there's this High Definition 400. Does that mean the Versitility 400 sucks? Yes, that is the message. Then why are you selling second rate product? And making me pay more for something good? Fuji doesn't play these games, and they're cheaper. Time for my pill, Carl - -- To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html