Re: [Leica] Any thoughts on this flare problem?

[Alastair Firkin <firkin@ncable.net.au>]

thanks Ted,
I can "burn" out some of the reflections, but on some the effect is 
just too great. I only wanted to come up with a few final shots, so I 
suppose the flared out ones go down to experience. There were plenty of 
places in those canyons, where you really needed the 15 to get the 
shot. Dust could well be the problem, though it did not seem to occur 
with any of the other lenes or with the Xpan unless the sky was in the 
image; The digital digilux did flare quite badly in the canyon, but you 
can check and re-position with it !!!


On Tuesday, Jun 10, 2003, at 13:09 Australia/Melbourne, Ted Grant wrote:

> Alastair Firkin asked:
>> Any thoughts on this flare problem?
>> Please visit:
>> http://stairfirkin.com/Mayimages/antelopeflare1.jpg
>> http://stairfirkin.com/Mayimages/antelopeflare2.jpg
>> to see my problem. Not that I can easily return to Antelope Canyon ;-)
>> G'day all,
>> My first images are "failures". Despite keeping the
>> lens out of the direct line of the light as it pours through the
>> ceiling the 15 mm Super elmar has created a chicken pox effect with
>> small dots of flare -- small I presume as I was using f16 or f22.<<<
>
> I don't think it's the small apeture, maybe, it's very tiny dust 
> specks out
> of focus in the air close to the camera lens being high-lighted some 
> how by
> the sunlight. Something like an out of focus light in an evening shot.
>
> Seems like you may have a lot of Photo Shop spotting to do. ;-)
>
>> Am I right in thinking this is due to the highlights bouncing around 
>> in
> the lens barrel?<<<
>
> Not likely.
>
>> Is there any way to avoid this flare?<<<<
>
> I don't think so due to the design of the lens, it's super wide angle
> picks-up high-light flares very easily depending on direction light is
> coming from. When shooting with side light you can easily get an 
> internal
> flare and the only way to get rid of it is, either change your angle or
> composition by adding something that blocks the sun or light,  but 
> doesn't
> spoil the picture.  This means usually getting something in silhouette 
> to
> block the light creating the flare.
>
>> Is the older super elmar more prone to flare than the newer version 
>> -- not
> that I
>> could afford the newer one, or the trip back to Arizona !!!!<<<<
>
> I don't think so, although I suppose the new one might have a 
> lessening of
> flare effect,
> if there were design changes to the lens. But a super wide angle just 
> gets
> them due to the super-wide angle.
>
> Although there's probably going to be some techie who'll have the 
> absolute
> correct answer even though they never used the lens. :-)
> ted
>
>
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