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Subject: Re: [Leica] 35/1.2 Nokton re: 35/1.4 Summilux
From: grduprey@rockwellcollins.com
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 08:38:05 -0500

Last time I checked, 490 Grams is heavier than 310 Grams, so the Nokton is
heavier than the Summilux not lighter.



                                                                                                                                            
                      Henning Wulff                                                                                                         
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I recently had a chance to use Tom Abrahamsson's Nokton 35 for a
week, and did some comparisons with my 35/1.4 Summilux ASPH, and, to
a lesser degree, my fourth generation Summicron 35.

The Nokton is huge; closer to the Noctilux in size than the Summilux.
The Nokton isn't quite as dense as the Summilux, so it only weighs
490gms (compared to the Summilux at 310gms). The Nokton's front glass
sits further away from the camera than the Noctilux's, but isn't
recessed as far, so you have to use the Nokton's hood. The lens seems
to intrude more into the viewfinder than my v.2 Noctilux; mostly due
to the wider angle of view, but also due to the greater extension
from the camera of the lens plus hood.

The build quality is very good; definitely the best of any C-V
product to date. It focusses to 0.7m in a reasonably short throw, and
the movement is as smooth as you could want. The buld quality still
seems a little shy of that of the Summilux, but not as much as the
price difference.

I shot a number of B&W Delta 100 films and a number of Kodak 100
Elite; also one of Fuji Velvia, which I respect for it's high
resolution but generally dislike for its lack of shadow detail and
harsh tones.

The one thing that amazed me about the Nokton's performance is that
the lens is exactly the same at f/1.2 as at f/8. Same resolution,
same contrast. Only the light falloff is less at f/8. And the light
falloff at f/1.2 isn't bad. At f/1.4 the light falloff seems
identical to that of the Summilux.

At f/1.2 the resolution and contrast of the Nokton seemed identical
to that of the Summilux at f/1.4. I truly could not tell the images
apart. The only thing is that in certain conditions the level of
flare produced by the Nokton seemed to be very slightly less.

For wide open shooting, in the very worst lighting conditions, the
Nokton excels, and seems to be at least as good as the Summilux.

When the lenses were stopped down, the story differs. When the Nokton
is stopped down, the images look identical to those at f/1.2, except
the last vestiges of light falloff disappear. Resolution and contrast
remain the same, and are only slightly different identical center to
edge. The Summilux images, however, improve so that at f/2.8 and
above they are significantly crisper due to both resolution and
contrast improvements. I alway thought that the Summilux was one of
those lenses that improved hardly at all, and that you could shoot
them at any aperture with essentially equal results. Now I have used
a lens that seems to be truly equal at all apertures. Another facet
of performance is that at f/1.2 the Nokton seems to have even less
astigmatism than the Summilux, even though it it virtually
unnoticeable in the latter.

Bokeh seems to be virtually identical; probably due to the high
correction of both of the lenses. Lack of spherical aberration
produces a bit of harshness in both lenses, with the Nokton possibly
suffering a bit more of this than the Summilux.

What this means is that the Nokton is not a universal lens; even less
than the Noctilux. When there is sufficient light, you do want a lens
that will image a superbly resolved, high contrast picture, that is
better than what the Nokton can achieve at f/1.2. The solution, it
seems to me, is to get the Nokton for f/1.2 to f/2, and get the
Summicron (4th gen) for all those times that f/2.8 and above and a
miniscule lens are just the ticket.

I'm not getting a Nokton (at least right now) because the extra 1/2
stop (works out to 1/3 in practice) isn't enough reason to carry such
a huge lens and spend such a lot of money. However, if you don't have
a Summilux right now, it (and an old Summicron) might be just the
ticket.

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