Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2003/06/11

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Subject: RE: [Leica] Snapshots vs 'art'
From: Daniel Ridings <daniel.ridings@muspro.uio.no>
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 16:40:15 +0200
References: <BB0BE867.B6D2%caliguri@rcn.com>

I agree. But be careful with what you do manage to see. These beer drinkers 
from last week ...

http://www.dlridings.com/paw2003/23alt2.html

One used to be my wife, the other was a friend :)

Don't look if you already did earlier. It's the same shot.

Actually, they really loved it. It's fun trying to figure out women.

Daniel

At 09:40 11.06.2003 -0400, you wrote:
>Ed - You slightly missed my point, which had more to do with the way I
>made it than it does with your understanding of it...:-)
>
>For some quite bizarre reason - and I say quite bizarre because,
>theoretically, the people on this list take their photography seriously
>- there is a general belief that photos taken of family members and
>gatherings, of the efluvia of everyday life, must necessarily be "snap
>shots." My point is that one can chose to make what one knows best ones
>best subject - take your 'best' photos of the kids, the spouse, the
>parents. They, of all subject, should ignore you and your camera. (I
>realize there is one real impediment in the way of doing this - and that
>is the fact that it can be quite difficult to really SEE the subjects
>that always surround you.)
>
>B. D.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
>[mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of Edward
>Caliguri
>Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 7:56 PM
>To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
>Subject: [Leica] Snapshots vs 'art'
>
>
>I think, B.D., that (at least for me!) it's almost an apology because
>you don't want the viewer to see these as 'your best work'. 'Snaps' of
>the kids and family are just unthinking grab shots, or more often posed
>(here is a photo of the kids in front of the lion pen at the National
>Zoo) and represent something of a record, nothing more. Only the
>photographer, those in it and relatives want to see it
>     However, I think you have a point - SOMETIMES, if you are lucky, the
>Zen thing we all spoke of before - and a gorgeous photograph just
>'happens' while you are 'snapping' - then you can show it to everyone,
>because then you can call it 'art' ;-)
>     Ed
>
> > <I MUST be missing something here...but why do photos of "the kids,"
> > and the other most important people and things in ones life, have to
> > be relegated to "snap shots?"
> >
> > Just wondering. :-)
> >
> > B. D.
>
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