RE: [Leica] OT (of course) Crisco

["Kit McChesney" <kitmc@acmefoto.com>]

Good, as in taste, and good for you, as in healthy, can often be two
different things! Some of the tastiest things are terribly unhealthy! Like
salt, sugar, fried fat, and the rest! 

Kit

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From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
[mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of Daniel Ridings
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 8:38 AM
To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
Subject: RE: [Leica] OT (of course) Crisco

There one more thing I can't figure out. It's unhealthy you say ... I
thought that by definition, all unhealthy things were good and this Crisco
sounds like ... a strange brew. I remember how it looks ... a white paste
in a tin-can, but I don't remember it being good. So if it's not good, it
must be healthy ... or something like that.

Daniel

On Tue, 11 Nov 2003, Kit McChesney wrote:

> Actually, shortening is pretty darn un-healthy, because it's a
hydrogenated
> vegetable oil. Vegetable "shortening" comes from oil that has been infused
> with hydrogen to make it hard and stiff at room temperature. If healthy
> depended on something's being a vegetable-based product, then we'd have no
> problem with all the trans-fatty stuff that's out there now. Shortening
was
> developed to make it so that folks who liked to lard could do it more
> conveniently. Shortening has a longer shelf life than pig or beef fat. But
> it behaves very similarly to lard, both in cooking and what it becomes in
> your arteries.
>
> If an oil is unadulterated, and is higher in monounsaturates (like olive,
> for instance), then you're talking healthy. Also, any oil that is hard, or
> solid, at room temperature, is not good for your body. That's why all the
> palm and coconut oils aren't good. They get stiff and solid at room
> temperature (pretty sticky on the inside of your innards, too). Lots of
junk
> food is full of coconut oil and hydrogenated fats. Take a look at a bag of
> your favorite mass-produced snack chip.
>
> There are some healthy "shortenings" on the market now, one of them made
by
> Spectrum Naturals, that are not hydrogenated. If you want healthy
> shortening, you have to use one of those. Otherwise, the end result isn't
> all that different from lard.
>
> Happy eating!
>
> Kit
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> Crisco is a Vegetable Shortening and is actually not too bad for cooking
> healthy.
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> Sonny Carter wrote:
> >
> > Hello Daniel,
> >
> > You can use bacon drippings or lard in place, in fact for some things
> > lard is really better than crisco because it heat more without
> > burning.  In most of these recipes, a good vegetable oil will do fine.
> >
> > The main function it has in breads is to make a pleasant browning, I
> > think.  Also makes it easier to get out of the cast iron skillet that
> > is almost an absolute necessity to cornbread.
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> > Maybe you can use reindeer fat up there.
> >
> > Sonny
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> Isn't Crisco's main job to be cheap?
> I think to make Fried Chicken in anything else the oil would cost more
> than the chicken!
> No way am I going to reuse any of that stuff.
> Mark Rabiner
>
> In the yuppie health food store down the street they have high end
> vegetarian Crisco packaged the same way. Won't kill you anywhere near as
> fast or as painfully.
>
> Portland, Oregon USA
> http://www.rabinergroup.com
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