Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2003/11/16
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]At 09:05 AM 11/16/03 -0800, Eric Welch wrote: >That isn't how it happened. Listen to the reporters who were covering >the war for the Washington Post and New York Times and you see a >different picture. David Halberstam and his colleagues went over there >fully supporting the war as a way to contain communism. They were >convinced by the grunts that the war was un-winnable and that the >leadership were not telling the truth about body counts and other >aspects of the war (see Gulf of Tonkin). > >Of course, as the war drug on things changed. Walter Cronkit's coverage >of the Tet Offensive and his conclusion that he explained on the air >that the war was a mistake caused a lot of the public to shift their >attitudes. Researchers have actually traced that moment as the point >where the war effort began to lose steam. > >It all depends on perspective. I agree with you, that it was probably a >good thing that the media made the war's costs clear to the American >people, and that they pressured the government to stop and pull out. >That's what democracy is about. And the grumbling to this day by our >Military strategic thinkers (I learned that covering the Army's Command >College at Fort Leavenworth) that it was the media's fault we lost that >war\ is the perfect example of why the US puts civilians in charge of >the military. > >It might take some time, but eventually our system is self-correcting. Eric Several points. First, I recognize that you are a proponent of "advocacy journalism" and I trust that you recall that I am not. Thus, I do not want a media which is waving around the axes it intends to grind but, rather, wish the most unbiased and neutral coverage I can get, coverage without cheap shots at emotionalism and the like. There IS a place for advocacy journalism in fringe publications with a known political slant, such as THE DAILY WORKER or THE NATIONAL REVIEW, but the takeover of the "mainstream" media over the past sixty years by those claiming neutrality while advancing a political or social agenda has not done this country any good at all. (This situation is exacerbated, of course, by the shift to broadcast media with its emphasis on "immediacy" and "shock value". There has been extensive research into jury composition, for instance, which shows that convictions are substantially likely if, say, a Black becomes involved in a firearms incident than if a white guy does the same -- and my own trial experience bears this out, as well. The public who goes home and gets the pulse of society from those "film at 11" guys never thinks too deeply on the editorial approach of the broadcast media.) Democracy, to this committed citizen of the Great Republic, is NOT about the existence of a biased press pressuring for its own agenda to become adopted. It is about an electorate selecting those who will make decisions based upon the popular welfare as each voter believes it to be. Second, Tet was a major victory for the US, as the Viet Cong was wiped out by our vigorous and appropriate response. From 1968 to 1975, almost all hostile forces in the RVN were DRVN mainline units infiltrated south. The US did not properly exploit this victory, it is true, in large part from the reality that 1968 was an election year and the outgoing Johnson administration was attempting not to embarrass things for Hubert Humphrey's campaign. Third, I recognize the role that Cronkite played in shaping US public opinion during his two decades at CBS Evening News. But, to be fair, the US electorate continued to support the war until the end. Some polls simply asked a yes/no question, and, yes, those polls show US support falling. But the polls which asked more sophisticated queries, such as Harris, which included discrimantors such as, "should the US a)do more to win the Viet-Nam War? b) do the same as it is doing now? or c) pull out?" found that the citizenry wanted the US to "win" in Viet-Nam but did not want the US to continue to have young men killed for no discernible purpose. This factor was especially true among those most likely to vote, as shown by the 1968 Presidential Election. Fourth, you must not have spent much time covering the Command and General Staff College. I am both a graduate of their Command and Staff Course and both a former instructor and Adjunct Faculty member. They certainly DO stress a lot of the problems with Viet-Nam in their coursework, especially the necessity for high commanders to know when to tell the civilians their personally held "best assessments" instead of simply saying, "can do, sir!" to the President, as the JCS did at the time of Tonkin Gulf. You probably should read ON STRATEGY, a work that was long required reading at C&GS and whcih is still highly recommended. (The ethics block, now taught in the earlier "CAS-Cubed" course, includes a block on GEN Harold K Johnston, Chief of Staff of the Army from 1964 to 1968 and his own moral quandries over whether or not he should have resigned in opposition to the war, on the grounds that the civilian government refused to set and adhere to "war aims", so that the military was simply trapped in an expensive war which was giving us casualties without any goal towards which to work.) (And remember that there are no longer more than a very small number of Viet-Nam War veterans on active duty today. For that matter, well over 90% of those who were involved in Grenada are now gone, while almost 75% of those from the First Gulf War are no longer in service. The present crop of soldiers really have no emotional connection to these earlier conflicts.) Marc msmall@infionline.net FAX: +540/343-7315 Cha robh bąs fir gun ghrąs fir! - -- To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html