Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2003/11/24
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]You are the person who defines a "true PJ"? I'll say it once more. My experience is different. Your disdain for the craft points to your ignorance of it. Observations can be misleading. I just know that there are legions of hard-working men and women out there on the front lines doing the work. I've seen it. I've been it. Sonny Monday, November 24, 2003, 8:58:29 PM, you wrote: JL> Sonny JL> A true PJ supplies the story as well as the photos. This is NOT the JL> case with several San Diego TV stations. And I have seen the case JL> very close up. JL> Jerry JL> Sonny Carter wrote: >> Jerry, >> >> Do not call me Sonny boy. I am polite to you, I expect the same from >> you. >> >> I don't believe you have seen the work close up. I believe you are >> incorrect about the situation there. >> >> Sonny >> >> Monday, November 24, 2003, 7:43:26 PM, you wrote: >> >> JL> Sonny >> >> JL> No, sonny-boy, I have seen how they work here in San Diego. The >> JL> TV cameraman just aims the camera where he/ she is told to. >> >> JL> Your contention may very well be true in other areas. Please notice >> JL> that I said that TV stations HERE, do that. Other places do have >> JL> true PJs. You, very well, may be one of them. >> >> JL> Jerry >> >> JL> Sonny Carter wrote: >> >> >> Monday, November 24, 2003, 5:15:55 PM, you wrote: >> >> >> >> JL> Sonny >> >> >> >> JL> Some TV stations here have the nerve to call the camera holders "Photo >> >> JL> Journalists"! All they do is point the camera where the reporter or director >> >> JL> tells them to! >> >> >> >> JL> Jerry >> >> >> >> Jerry, >> >> >> >> I like to think you are wrong about that. If you have that attitude, you denigrate >> >> some really fine journalists >> >> who happen to be photographers rather than reporters. >> >> >> >> Many times, the photographer is the one to get the story, a producer writes it and >> >> an anchor reads it. >> >> >> >> That said, in many many markets there is no team, just the reporter/cameraman >> >> (one person) out there doing the job. >> >> >> >> For a number of years, I covered the Louisiana Legislature without a >> >> reporter along. I covered the Clay Shaw Trial in New Orleans without >> >> a reporter. I covered the Black Panther Shoot-out in Desire Project >> >> without a reporter. >> >> >> >> I covered the Christmas Day fire in New Orleans that killed three >> >> firemen without a reporter. >> >> >> >> There were many more instances, but it was more often me showing the >> >> reporter what to do than the other way around. >> >> >> >> Finally, I would tell you that when I worked on the Jim Metcalf >> >> Journal at WWL-TV, I would shoot the piece, and Jim would look at my >> >> film and write the story. For work like that we won one of Channel 4's several >> >> Peabody Awards. >> >> >> >> Sonny >> >> http://www.sonc.com >> >> >> >> JL> Sonny Carter wrote: >> >> >> >> >> Hello Tim, >> >> >> >> >> >> I'd like to point out that in television "Camera operators" >> >> >> designates fixed camera positions, such as >> >> >> you might find in a studio. >> >> >> >> >> >> Although I am no longer in that number, even though we stopped >> >> >> using motion picture film for news coverage, >> >> >> those of us who continued with video camera, continued to call >> >> >> ourselves news photographers. A few use the term "news >> >> >> videographer." >> >> >> >> >> >> I know you want to maintain accuracy. >> >> >> >> >> >> Sonny >> >> >> >> >> >> Monday, November 24, 2003, 4:04:30 PM, you wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> TA> Those of you north of the border (or south who are close enough to it to get >> >> >> TA> CBC) - this is a very compelling documentary about news gathering in the >> >> >> TA> Ira* Wa*. >> >> >> >> >> >> TA> "These are the stories that weren't't told by the media during the Ira* wa*. >> >> >> TA> CBC NEWS goes straight to the source, to journalists, camera operators and >> >> >> TA> photographers from news organizations around the world, who reveal the >> >> >> TA> lethal risks they faced, >> >> >> TA> as well as the untold horrors they witnessed." >> >> >> >> >> >> TA> There was a one hour version on last night. The full two hour version is >> >> >> TA> supposed on next Sunday on CBC at 10pm I think. >> >> >> >> >> >> TA> tim >> >> >> >> >> >> TA> -- >> >> >> TA> To unsubscribe, see >> >> >> TA> http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> Best regards, >> >> >> Sonny mailto:sonc@sonc.com >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> To unsubscribe, see >> >> >> http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html >> >> >> >> JL> -- >> >> JL> To unsubscribe, see >> >> JL> http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Best regards, >> >> Sonny mailto:sonc@sonc.com >> >> >> >> -- >> >> To unsubscribe, see >> >> http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html >> >> JL> -- >> JL> To unsubscribe, see >> JL> http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html >> >> -- >> Best regards, >> Sonny mailto:sonc@sonc.com >> >> -- >> To unsubscribe, see >> http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html JL> -- JL> To unsubscribe, see JL> http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html - -- Best regards, Sonny mailto:sonc@sonc.com - -- To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html