Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2003/11/29

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Subject: Re: [Leica] Panasonic DMC-FZ10 with Vario-Elmarit lens
From: Ted Grant <tedgrant@shaw.ca>
Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 17:49:02 -0800
References: <BBEE9EED.114F%quincyogwin@bellnet.ca>

Sam S said:
> > I'm not one to pump poison into the pumpkin, but I say let all those
> > digital dorks divest their film cameras for digital as the resulting
> > price dump for film equipment will enrich my collection tenfold. And who
> > can blame them? Everybody needs the digital format to take prissy family
> > poses of children with gravy on their shirts. Great for 30 year school
> > reunions, too. How better to leave the expanding wife at home and in her
> > stead bring digital snapshots Photoshopped to look 50 pounds
> > lighter--the pretty princess of the cheerleader squad looks as sparkling
> > as she did at 16. And she resides in your nest. Who's to know?<<<

Gee Sam,
If yer married buddy I'd be very careful about leaving that post lying
around or you might not make it till the 30th re-union if your good wife
sees you referring to her in this manner.. ;-)

It seems to me from the many posts going through there's too many folks
dumping their Leica's to go full digi, when in reality they should have both
to work / play with.  Why?

Well, Sandy and I are finding out quite quickly there are times when
shooting with film is best. Then there's the "quickie crash and burn" things
on occasion and there's no question, nick it off on digital and out of our
face as quick as possible. But still with excellent quality.

Yep as a neophyte digi operator I'm very blown away with the quality and the
look of what I'm printing, quite amazing actually compared to film whatever
type. However, I'm still committed to film for many of the projects we're
working on and will be for sometime to come. Certainly until I feel as
comfortable with digi as I am with film with 53 years experience.

The other day we discovered an interesting practical use of digital when we
had a few 16X20 prints to copy and new prints made. Shot with a Leica many
years ago, the negatives are now in the National Archives of Canada Photo
Collection, so we thought we'd flatbed scan them in sections then stitch
them in the computer as we've done before.

Then the light dawned, "Why don't we copy them with the digital camera then
download to the computer?" And you wouldn't believe the very fine quality 13
X 15 B&W prints we made. Unbelievable, honest. They looked better than the
original prints that were kind of beat up and slightly discoloured, but
still leica sharp! ;-)

So now we've learned this quick trick to copy on digital, pop it into the
computer, tidy it up and print it. Now that's a very neat trick of digital
use and a good reason why to have both film and digital.

Now we've got a little project to do with a number of beat-up big prints
from years gone by that should be "refreshed." :-) And re-printed.

Just some passing thoughts on making use of both.
ted












- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Quincy Ogwin" <quincyogwin@bellnet.ca>
To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2003 4:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Leica] Panasonic DMC-FZ10 with Vario-Elmarit lens


> Poison in your pumpkin Sam, or did someone shit in your cornflakes ? ...
>
> Ech...take it easy. You should take some satisfaction that like most
> digital-ware, 99% will be lost to the fossil record. Who's to know the
> "expanding wife" ever existed in an expanded state when the future
> generations find that odd silver disk in the shoebox with the "what the
hell
> is this **.jpg format?"
>
> Remember though, digital is  still a serious medium in the hands of a
> talented photographer. Don't let the unwashed masses or Michael H.
Reichmann
> put you off.
>
> -=-
> Quincy
>
>
> On 11/29/03 5:48 PM, "sam" <sam@osheaven.net> wrote:
>
> > Don Dory wrote:
> >> Mark,
> >> Over on the Luminous Landscape site they have done a comparison of
> >> medium format backs.  The basic premise is that the larger sensor is
> >> better than the one on the 1Ds but that you needed a dedicated body
> >> combination to take advantage of the digital back.  So, all the Hassy
> >> gear is being turned in because the various bodies don't deal well with
> >> one shot backs.  This is why the deal with Fuji went through, to have a
> >> dedicated back.
> >>
> >> Another answer is the classic, it's good enough.  A third answer is
that
> >> it is now a digital file you are selling so the art director can't get
> >> all hissy over wanting a certain size transparency on the light table.
> >>
> >> Don
> >> dorysrus@mindsprig.com
> >>
> >
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