Re: [Leica] Taking Umbrage at John's Lens cap missive

["Steven Blutter" <steven2244@ameritech.net>]

What would the profit be in not using a shade?  An odd reflection you didn't
notice could cause a flare for instance.

There are times when you need to squeeze in a tiny place but that's very
rare for me...

Better on the lens that in the bag.


- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Collier" <jbcollier@shaw.ca>
To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 9:41 AM
Subject: Re: [Leica] Taking Umbrage at John's Lens cap missive


> Yahoo! A heated discussion about something that actually pertains to
> photography. Wait a minute, this even pertains to Leicas! Holy Doodle!
>
> I have lens hoods for all my lenses and, up until about three years
> ago, I would have sooner gone out photographing without film than
> without a lens hood. However, I watched an mpeg of DAH working merrily
> away WITH NO LENS HOOD on his 35/1.4A. After getting over the initial
> shock, and being open minded, I decided to try it myself. My results
> were such that I no longer use this a hood with this lens.
>
> I heard of the Noctilux's flare resistance and deliberately searched
> for an early one with a separate hood so I could leave the hood off. I
> have been very pleased with the Nocti's performance without a hood. I
> know you do not care for the Nocti's look wide open -- I confess that
> at times it does look as though the background is being flushed down a
> toilet -- but it is an absolutely flare proof lens; simply stunning.
> Amazing clarity even right next to overexposed light sources on the
> neg/chrome.
>
> The 24/2.8 is not as good as the above lenses at flare control but it
> is very close. The 21/2.8 is slightly worse again which is why I always
> used a hood with it. The 50/2 is a flare magnet even with its hood in
> place so I always use the Noctilux!
>
> Older lenses need hoods, no doubt about it, but the newer ones can be
> pretty amazing in difficult lighting even without their hoods. Not all
> of them by any account so why not TRY it and see for yourself. No one
> who is really concerned about flare would use anything but a GG back on
> a view camera. Certainly an M camera has to about the worse choice for
> precise flare control.
>
> John Collier
>
> On Dec 10, 2003, at 7:37 AM, B. D. Colen wrote:
>
> > What are lens caps? Do they fit over the end of shades? Because lens
> > shades are the things that belong on the ends of lenses - they
> > eliminate
> > flare (And sorry guys and gals, but even the best, most flare-free lens
> > will flare on occasion), they keep rain and snow off the lens surface
> > if
> > it's not blowing right at the camera, the protect the front element
> > from
> > bumps and scratches and scrapes, and they keep kindergarteners at bay.
> >
> > Eric Welch wrote:
> >
> >> The only one I can think of is they don't understand the benefit.
> >>
> >> On Dec 10, 2003, at 4:19 AM, Buzz Hausner wrote:
> >>
> >>> I think if one's going to use anything one should use a shade.  What
> >>> is the argument against lens shades?
>
> --
> To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html

- --
To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html