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Subject: Re: [Leica] The fine line between art and pornography
From: RUBEN BLĘDEL <ruben@rhodos.dk>
Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 07:22:40 +0100
References: <7629EB4795F39146A4D2ECC655CD68EA2B1303@asc02.asc.upenn.edu> <3FD798BC.3040602@rhodos.dk> <3FD7EA09.8000203@osheaven.net>

I still se the pictures as anti-porn and I still find that Kyle did warn 
about the content and it would not bother me if an exhibition was or was 
not funded - and as Eric ask - would I take my Mom - no she would have 
seen the show before I got around reading about it and shes 77 !

sam wrote:

> Let me add to the fray by making this comment: I don't care what 
> anybody considers art to be. I have my own sense of what art is and do 
> not insist others adhere to it. But I do insist that I not be forced 
> to indulge in other people's fantasies through public funding. The 
> mechanism for arts funding in the United States is corrupt and 
> absurdly political. "Powerful" work like Cumshots need to find a 
> patron to foot the bill. Utopian dreamers ought not have the power to 
> take money from hard-working people to fester, uh rather, foster art 
> for public consumption.
>
> Some say that how a country supports the arts is the measure of its 
> intelligence and sophistication but fail to understand that it is much 
> more a case of national manipulation. A few rarefied queer ducks 
> gleefully spending other people's money doing things heretofore illegal.
>
> Lunacy.
>
>
> Sam S
>
>
>
>
> RUBEN BLĘDEL wrote:
>
>> The cumshots as well as the drugshots are very strong and starts a 
>> chain reactions of refelctions - its powerful - I would not buy it 
>> but its artistic impact is powerful and I am happy that you got our 
>> attention on this exhibit !
>>
>> Kyle Cassidy wrote:
>>
>>> Not for the faint of heart, but the art world (in which some artists 
>>> use
>>> cameras) swings back and forth. Ashkan Sahihi's made a "sensational" 
>>> series
>>> of images that are only offensive with the proper text accompanying 
>>> them.
>>> And he's made an interesting comment on pornography without using 
>>> nudity.
>>> Which is interesting in and of itself. Are people trying, 
>>> intentionally now,
>>> to be the next robert maplethorpe, or andreas serrano? Probably not, 
>>> but
>>> they pushed the envelope in a very different direction and it's 
>>> never going
>>> to lose that shape, it'll just keep going.
>>>
>>> Ah, the LUG, that's where I get the art scene buzz.....
>>>
>>> Again -- a warning -- no nudity, but graphic sexual content.
>>>
>>> Interview about the exhibit:
>>>
>>> http://www.nerve.com/Dispatches/Martin/Face_premium/Face_text.asp
>>>
>>> And the exhibit:
>>>
>>> http://www.axelraben.com/sahihi/cumShots/
>>>
>>> kc
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In reply to: Message from Kyle Cassidy <KCassidy@asc.upenn.edu> ([Leica] The fine line between art and pornography)
Message from RUBEN BLĘDEL <ruben@rhodos.dk> (Re: [Leica] The fine line between art and pornography)
Message from sam <sam@osheaven.net> (Re: [Leica] The fine line between art and pornography)