RE: [Leica] MP vs. M7

["Jeffery Smith" <jls@runbox.com>]

My inclination would be to find the one best setting and never change
it, thus ignoring 95% of the 21st century features. (you know, like the
folks who center text in a word processor by shoving the text to the
middle of the screen with the space bar). Seriously, I (like Rei) have
frames haphazardly shot at non-objects, and when I press the shutter, I
instinctively think "Oh, I hope that worked" rather than "Glad I caught
that image".

Jeffery Smith
New Orleans, LA


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From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
[mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of B. D.
Colen
Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 1:13 PM
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Subject: RE: [Leica] MP vs. M7

Well, I like shooting with Ms, and I like shooting with SLRs...But I
will admit I've never understood the "I have to use a fully manual SLR
because I don't want to shoot with a programmed camera or any of that
stuff." I just did a 36 hour shoot with - for give me - my DSLR, and I
had it on fully manual about 90+ percent of the time...manual shutter
speed, manual aperture - manual focus.
B. D.

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Smith
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Subject: RE: [Leica] MP vs. M7


I guess I'm turning into an old fart, but what I like about Leica M
cameras (and other RFs) is their simplicity. They are like what I
learned on in the mid-1960's. I also like shooting with manual SLRs
because they don't have all of the "program" features. I guess I would
rather futz with framing and moving myself around the subject than futz
with choosing from a dizzying selection of electronic settings many of
which I don't fully understand.

Jeffery Smith
New Orleans, LA


- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
[mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of B. D.
Colen
Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 11:55 AM
To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
Subject: RE: [Leica] MP vs. M7

First off, Adam, as you did correctly quote me, I said "with some
notable exceptions." Yes, there are some pros who still use Ms. Hell, I
still use Ms - for some purposes.

But Leica Ms have for about the last decade, if not longer, been more of
a fascinating curiosity than a staple of the pro world. Go back to
Vietnam and everyone carried Ms with wides and Nikon Fs with long
lenses. But those days are - well, history.

That doesn't mean that people shouldn't use and love the cameras. But I
was responding to Eric's asking if the MP was a camera for pros, or for
collectors.

Best

B. D.

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[mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of Adam
Bridge
Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 12:06 PM
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Subject: RE: [Leica] MP vs. M7


> the sad current reality is that for all
> intents and purposes - with some very notable exceptions - Leica M
> cameras are no longer "instruments of the pros." Period.

Hmmm...this seems so absolute. If you mean in the photojournalistic
markets then you're absolutely correct. It's digital world now and
anything that shoots film just isn't in the ballgame any more. I think
it won't be long before we see little "satellite dish" hats for
photojournalists in the field so they can upload their images. (an image
for humor only - we all know that dishes are passe).

But there are certainly professionals who use Leica 35's for
environmental portraiture and even for landscape photography where the
choice of film and lens can be adapted to the desired look of the final
work.

In these situations it's not irrelevant at all.

At least that's my thought.

Adam
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