Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2004/02/07

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Subject: RE: [Leica] 40mm Rokkor CLE...Two Mints in One!
From: "B. D. Colen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net>
Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2004 10:31:41 -0500

This actually gets pretty ridiculous...I've seen equipment described as
"mint" that is essentially beat to shit - what the seller means, to be
charitable, is that it is in perfect working condition.

I have to say that I'm with both Buzz and Jeffery on this one:
Mint generally means "in the same condition as that when it left the
factory"
While "new" means unopened, untouched by post-factory human hands.

- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
[mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of Buzz
Hausner
Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2004 10:24 AM
To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
Subject: RE: [Leica] 40mm Rokkor CLE...Two Mints in One!



Well, in that case, I guess it is acceptable to be "sort of unique,"
"more unique," "less unique," et cetera.  To me, "mint" means as the
item came from the manufacturer...or the mint...having had absolutely no
use whatsoever.  That is, unless one really does mean derived from the
essential oils of the spearmint and peppermint families of plants.
Everything else is just sloppy language usage or the misrepresentation
of goods on offer.

	Buzz Hausner


- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
[mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of Jeffery
Smith
Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2004 9:22 AM
To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
Subject: RE: [Leica] 40mm Rokkor CLE...Two Mints in One!

In KEH terms, mint doesn't mean like new...there are several categories
above it, like "New" "As New" "Like New" and "Like New Minus". What
really annoys me that, to some folks, "Excellent" means "average" as in
well used but no major dings.

Jeffery Smith
New Orleans, LA


- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
[mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of Buzz
Hausner
Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2004 2:39 AM
To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
Subject: [Leica] 40mm Rokkor CLE...Two Mints in One!

I'm sorry...and not that the referenced lens isn't a very fine
unit...but what is better than mint?  Perhaps the collection of
photographica has progressed to the level of numismatics, in which there
seem to be near infinite levels of "mint" state.  Maybe by "mint or
better" you mean something like chocolate.

	Buzz Hausner

- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
[mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of John Abela
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 11:14 PM
To: LUG
Subject: [Leica] WTB: Mint 40mm Rokkor CLE

Hello,
Anyone want to part with their mint or better 40mm rokkor CLE? Thanks.
Regards, John



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