Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2004/02/25

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Subject: Re: [Leica] A Grudging Concession to Digital, Made With Regret
From: Slobodan Dimitrov <s.dimitrov@charter.net>
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 18:05:39 -0800

As with everything else in human life, the market place will dictate where
the real worth will be assigned.
S. Dimitrov


> From: "B. D. Colen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net>
> Reply-To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 20:19:31 -0500
> To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
> Subject: RE: [Leica] A Grudging Concession to Digital, Made With Regret
> 
> The black and white, inks v. silver question, Marc, is one that will
> never be satisfactorily answered. There is no question that Photoshop
> provides far more control over the image than can be achieved in the wet
> darkroom. There is also no question that one can produce truly beautiful
> black and white prints using inks, rather than silver. HOWEVER - there
> is also no question that
> an inkjet print produced by someone who has mastered the process, and a
> silver print produced by a master printer, are two different (dare I say
> it?), separate but equal animals. Both are beautiful; both but they are
> not the same. I am extremely pleased with the results I get with the
> combination of Photoshop, an Epson 1160 printer, and quadtone inks. But
> I know that some silver aficionados will never accept those prints as
> "real." So it really comes down, like virtually everything else in every
> art or craft, to a matter of taste.
> 
> B. D.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of Jonathan
> Borden
> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 4:12 PM
> To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> Subject: Re: [Leica] A Grudging Concession to Digital, Made With Regret
> 
> 
> Doug Herr wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Marc, as Dan C suggested, if the prints from your 1200S scans impress
>> you, try printing from a really good scan.  YMMV, but I was so
>> impressed that I gave up the enlarger for good.  There's a long
>> learning curve ahead of you but the results are worth it.
>> 
>> 
> 
> The ease of applying unsharp and contrast masking is hard to believe.
> Although I've done a certain amount of Cibachrome printing (mostly years
> 
> ago, more recently I've sent it out) and although there is a somewhat
> steep learning curve with Photoshop (I'm not on the top of the curve
> yet), the things that can be done in the "digital darkroom" are nothing
> short of amazing.
> 
> There is no question in my mind that, perhaps unless your name is Ctein,
> 
> for color enlarging, digital far surpasses the conventional chemical
> darkroom.
> 
> Now for B/W is this the case? (An honest question). Do folks feel that
> digital surpasses "silver gelatin fiber" ? There seems to be something
> to the appearance of a conventional print that has a certain look that I
> 
> find appealing, but perhaps it's just because I am not enough of an
> expert B/W digital printer (yet).
> 
> Jonathan
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