Re: [Leica] FS: Buyer Beware! an open letter

[Joe Leung <jcyleung8@shaw.ca>]

Jerry,

I think Mark is very kind. He tried to send a warning to the seller and to
give him a final chance to resolve the matter privately before exposing his
identity. I hope the seller will do something about it before it's too late.

Good luck Mark.

Joe L.


- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jerry Lehrer" <jerryleh@pacbell.net>
To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 7:27 AM
Subject: Re: [Leica] FS: Buyer Beware! an open letter


> Mark
>
> Since you have withheld the sellers name, your message does
> not prevent any of us from falling into a similar trap from the
> same seller.
>
> Otherwise, why send an "open letter"?
>
> Jerry
>
> Mark Theken wrote:
>
> > Over the past two years, I have made many mutually
> > beneficial transactions with LUG participants.  I
> > deeply regret the necessity to post this message
> > regarding a recent transaction.  The seller, by
> > refusing to respond to my correspondence, has given me
> > no alternative to seek the refund I have requested
> > over the past 2 weeks.
> > Dear XXXXXXX:
> > I am requesting that you acknowledge the sale and
> > guarantee of originality of black paint M3 # 993XXX
> > which I received from you on 2/6/2004.  I contacted
> > you immediately after receiving this camera and
> > politely stated my concerns regarding the authenticity
> > of this camera.  The documentation you claimed prior
> > to the sale was unavailable.  Because you were unable
> > to provide copies of this documentation, I politely
> > requested that you accept the return of this camera
> > and refund the purchase price.  You responded with a
> > refusal to discuss this transaction any further.
> > Curiously, you also ignored my request to provide a
> > sales receipt for this mail order transaction.
> > Regardless, I have copies of the bank draft, made
> > payable to you, in the amount of USD $6225.
> > Based upon your claim of expertise in authenticating
> > rare Leica cameras, I made the good faith and sight
> > unseen purchase of this camera which you listed for
> > sale on the LUG website.  It has since been
> > established by three internationally recognized Leica
> > collectors that this camera was altered from the
> > original 1960 production at some point in time.  That
> > message was forwarded to you 2/20/2004.   Based upon
> > this information, two possibilities exist.
> > 1-Your representation of the authenticity and
> > guarantee of originality of black paint M3 # 993XXX
> > was erroneous.
> > 2-You were aware that this camera had been altered
> > since the original production in 1960.  Your refusal
> > to respond to any of my correspondence about this
> > transaction makes this very disturbing to me.
> > You stated in our correspondence that this camera has
> > a value of two times the price that I paid.  In
> > reality, the value is more likely 50% of the price I
> > paid.  If you are convinced that the value of the
> > camera is as you have stated, reversing this
> > transaction should be a very simple economic decision
> > for you.
> > As I stated in my previous messages to you, by
> > returning the purchase amount of USD $6225 to attorney
> > Alfred Wolsky in Arlington, MA, we can both walk away
> > from this transaction undamaged.  Mr. Wolsky, the
> > Legal Officer of the LHSA, has graciously agreed at my
> > request to act as an escrow agent.  He will hold the
> > camera to be returned to you by whatever arrangements
> > you make with him.   In that event, I am willing to
> > accept that the first possibility listed above is
> > correct.  I think we both will sleep much better with
> > that conclusion to this matter.
> > Your frequent posts to the LUG over the past two years
> > have stated your expectation of a high level of
> > integrity from LUG participants.  It is now time for
> > you to act as you expect others to.  It is not my
> > intention to impeach your expertise, integrity or
> > standing within the LUG or LHSA community in any way.
> >
> > I feel it is in our mutual best interest for you to
> > respond to this request immediately.
> > Sincerely,
> > Mark Theken
> > telephone:  330-494-3552
> > marktheken@yahoo.com
> >
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