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Subject: [Leica] Susan Sontag
From: raikorho at uusikaupunki.fi (Raimo K)
Date: Wed May 26 13:59:03 2004
References: <BAY12-F16yo25w3tdR000031785@hotmail.com>

What are you trying to say - that the US are murderers and rapists or that
the Iraqis are?
I does not make the the US any better either way. It?s not democracy and
freedom the US are bringing to Iraq, it?s torture.
All the best!
Raimo K
Personal photography homepage at:
http:\\www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Philip Kokoczka" <kokoczkaphotography@hotmail.com>
To: <lug@leica-users.org>
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2004 3:10 PM
Subject: [Leica] Susan Sontag


> What would you do?
> A group of criminals have kidnapped your wife and daughter. They are known
> for gang raping, torturing and killing their captives. You happen to find
> and capture a couple of them. They know where your wife and daughter are
> being held, and have told you that they have only a short time left before
> the raping, torturing and killing begin. What do you do to get the
> information where your wife and daughter are being held? If you just ask
> them nicely to tell you where they are being held do you think they would
> tell you?  What length would you go to in order to get them to tell you
the
> location at which your wife and daughter are being held?
>
> Face it folks, times have changed. The Geneva convention was written to
> protect the rights and dignity of military personnel captured on the
> battlefield, not terrorists that cut off hands for punishment, or use a
wood
> chipper for "executions" or use poison gas on minority populations. I am
> getting sick and tired of hearing the ilk of Ted Kennedy and his gang
trying
> to compare what our military did to what Sadam's henchmen did. How can you
> compare putting panties on someone's head with giving them a bath in
nitric
> acid? These terrorists are out to kill you, your wife, daughters and sons.
> They are out to kill your way of  life. They are out to impose their
version
> of Islam on you and the rest of the non-Islamic world. What regime do you
> want to live under? Please, let these military people do what they can to
> find out where the next strike is planned. And remember that these
> terrorists they are watching in the Iraqi prisons are not there because
they
> broke the speeding law or stole a candy bar from the neighborhood grocery.
> They are there because they are terrorists and want to kill me, my family,
> your family and my and your way of  life.
>
> This is a site to discuss Leica cameras, lenses and accessories and the
> taking of Leica pictures. Please take all criticism of our military to
sites
> set up for that purpose
>
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In reply to: Message from kokoczkaphotography at hotmail.com (Philip Kokoczka) ([Leica] Susan Sontag)