[Leica] Re: FW: Black and White C41 Film

[abridge at gmail.com (Adam Bridge)]

The scratches only show up on the negatives I process myself, not on
ones that I send out, either color or CN black and white even if I
scan without digital ICE. And it happens with three different cameras:
two M6's and one . . . R8! (Just to connect to another thread
happening here.)

I actually DID have the R8 scratch my film - it was picked up by the
lab I use for E6 who called me and I had the camera cleaned. (I
definately like this lab.)

Adam


On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 22:46:31 -0400, Don Dory <dorysrus@mindspring.com> wrote:
> Adam,
> If you have scratches on your negatives and you process your own
> negatives, then you have to look at your camera and or cassettes if you
> reload.
> 
> First, the Nikon scanner has an extremely coherent light lens so any
> defect in the film is found, so microscopic marks show up all to well.
> 
> Using the standard stainless steel reels, I only have scratches like
> that when I use my IIIf and my Canon IVsb.  To this day I have not found
> the &*%$$ rough spot in either camera so I have to healing brush out a 1
> to2 pixel scratch across most of any frame.  What makes it hard is that
> you can not see that small a line on the negative so you have to guess
> where the dirt is on the body.
> 
> Don
> dorysrus@mindspring.com
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: lug-bounces+dorysrus=mindspring.com@leica-users.org
> [mailto:lug-bounces+dorysrus=mindspring.com@leica-users.org] On Behalf
> Of JAMES NICHOLS
> Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 9:19 PM
> To: Leica Users Group
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Re: FW: Black and White C41 Film
> 
> Adam,
> Are you certain that the scratches are present before you scan the
> negatives?  Could the scanner itself be the culprit?
> Dust can always be a problem when one must air-dry in the home
> environment.
> I've never used a drying cabinet, but I assume the environment can be
> more
> closely controlled.
> 
> Jim Nichols
> 
> > [Original Message]
> > From: Adam Bridge <abridge@gmail.com>
> > To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>
> > Date: 9/21/2004 8:08:41 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Leica] Re: FW: Black and White C41 Film
> >
> > Hmmm...this is probably my own problem but I have a terrible time with
> > very thin scratches on the film I process. I've tried everything to
> > eliminate them and they continue to plague me. They only show up on
> > scanned images, however. If I print the image in an enlarger they do
> > not show up even on substantial enlargements. I'm assuming that it's
> > an artifact of the scanning process - that the Nikon scanner somehow
> > enhances the scratches.
> >
> > I also have a bit of dust problem even though I work hard to eliminate
> > it. I know: buy a drying cabinet. Everything in its time!
> >
> > Adam
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 17:46:07 -0500, Eric <ericm@pobox.com> wrote:
> > > James:
> > >
> > > >Comparing results with C41 B&W to the results I got with Plus-X,
> Super
> XX, and Tri-X
> > > >in the 1950s and 60s when I had my own darkroom, I have been
> somewhat
> disappointed.
> > >
> > > Don't need a darkroom.  Just a bathroom that can be darkened for a
> few
> > > minutes to load your film.  If your scanning your chromogenic film,
> there's
> > > no reason why you can't scan your silver halide film.
> > >
> > > The main advantage I see to C41 B&W is that you can use the infrared
> channel
> > > on many scanners to help eliminate dust and scratches.
> > >
> > > The main advantage I see to doing your own conventional B&W is that
> you
> > > don't need to eliminate dust and scratches that were placed there by
> the
> > > stupid lab.  :)
> > >
> > > Come on.  You know you really want to.  :)
> > >
> > > --
> > > Eric
> > > http://canid.com/
> > >
> > >
> > >
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