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Subject: [Leica] Extra photo bag on the plane
From: nathan.wajsman at planet.nl (Nathan Wajsman)
Date: Thu Oct 7 08:24:33 2004
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Simon,

The manufacturers may well put placards with max. load in the bins, but 
I am certain that they build in considerable tolerance into those 
markings, for legal reasons at least. It is similar to the stickers on 
my Givi motorcycle top case: do not exceed 120 km/h and do not put more 
than 3 kg in it. I routinely disregard this weight limit, and so does 
everybody else I know, and I am sure Givi knows it perfectly well and 
builds the cases to take 10 kg. The ridiculous 3 kg limit is just to 
protect themselves from liability.

The only airline I have seen implementing the one-piece and 5 kg limit 
for carry-on with anything approaching consistency is Easyjet; the other 
ones I fly frequently--KLM, Transavia, Iberia--have never weighed my 
carry-on.

The possibility of ordering stuff in the Schiphol shops for pickup on 
return is most likely motivated by the desire for higher sales than any 
safety concerns.

Cheers,
Nathan

animal wrote:

> No you are dead wrong.
> The usual average mass per person is 76 kg,s and luggage is set at 18 kg 
> for medium distance flights.
> 
> The manufacturers clearly put placards in every luggage bin with the 
> maximum load.
> 
> It,s up to the airlines and the passengers to ensure that that is 
> complied with.
> Next time read your tickets carefully to see what your obligations are 
> in this respect.
> Same for dangerous goods in carry ons.Even small things like a zippo 
> lighter or a gas haircurler.
> There is an industry wide effort to remove the liquor from the cabin.
> This results in many major airports to allow tax free sales upon arrival.
> The final say is with the purser and cabin attendant at the door during 
> boarding.
> If they notice unusually large or heavy carry ons they have to let in 
> load below decks.
> The best airlines are quite good at implementing these rules.Usually 
> there are check boxes at checkin were you can test the dimensions and 
> weights of carry on bags.Still many are very bad especially in the 
> Americas and with upstarts as well.
> Point i,m trying to make is that these restrictions are not silly rules 
> they are a matter of life and death.
> It,s as simple as that.
> simon jessurun
> 
> 
>> Simon,
>>
>> I understand that you are speaking from a pilot perspective, but the 
>> airlines and Boeing/Airbus are presumably aware of what the average 
>> load per passenger is configure the planes accordingly.
>>
>> Also, funny enough, I have NEVER seen any flight crew object to 
>> passengers carrying bags with lots of bottles from the tax-free 
>> shop--surely that must add just as much to the load of the plane as 
>> Tina's extra cameras, but of course if the airlines clamped down on 
>> THAT, then the airports would get quite upset, wouldn't they?
>>
>> I suspect that the hand luggage limits have at least as much to do 
>> with the economic need to get people on and off the plane quickly so 
>> that it can be turned around and be in the air again as fast as possible.
>>
>> Nathan
>> (about 50 round trip flights from Schiphol during past year)
>>
>> animal wrote:
>>
>>> And don,t worry what will happen to you in an overloaded plane when a 
>>> seagull decides to go sightseeing in an engine during your takeoff.
>>> Many airlines will prosecute if they catch you cheating like that.And 
>>> will ban you from flying with them again.
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Nathan Wajsman
>> Almere, The Netherlands
>>
>> General photography: http://www.nathanfoto.com
>> Seville photography: http://www.fotosevilla.com
>>
>>
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Nathan Wajsman
Almere, The Netherlands

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