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Subject: [Leica] Starbucks
From: s.jessurun95 at chello.nl (animal)
Date: Sat Sep 25 19:20:10 2004
References: <20040420205553.GC464@mrps.demon.co.uk><002701c4271d$1efda250$4649c33e@symkeehx5nw8g8> <20040420230519.GD464@mrps.demon.co.uk>

i,m realising that but the pressure can be no factor if the vessel is
strong enough.the comment that one needs 95 degrees water at 8 bars
makes sense to me as does the theory of high temperature steam
extracting the wrong compounds

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tony Terlecki" <ajt@mrps.demon.co.uk>
To: "Leica Users Group" <lug@leica-users.org>
Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 1:05 AM
Subject: Re: [Leica] Starbucks


| On Tue, Apr 20, 2004 at 11:19:09PM +0200, animal wrote:
| > on my machine it,s steam.
| > it has a boiler and there is no pump
|
| In that case it's not authentic espresso. Machines which rely on steam
pressure
| to move water through the coffee actually only generate a fraction of
the
| pressure required to produce espresso. Yes they can make nice coffee
but
| no it isn't espresso.
|
| > simon jessurun
| >
| > | On Tue, Apr 20, 2004 at 08:58:24PM +0200, animal wrote:
| > | > Espresso is a method where superheated steam is pressed through
the
| > | > ground coffee.
| > |
| > | Nope, espresso is a drink where heated (about 95 deg C) WATER is
| > passed
| > | under pressure (about 9 bar) through ground coffee.
| > |
| > | > Thereby extracting less caffeine and different compounds
| > |
| > | Correct - it is a commonly held myth that espresso is very high in
| > caffeine
| > | when actually it generally has lower caffeine (unless the blend
| > contains a
| > | very high Robusta content) than almost any other coffee. Another
myth
| > is
| > | that espresso is bitter when actually a well made epsresso is
nothing
| > of the
| > | sort - bitterness indicates that the drink has been overextracted.
| > |
| > | -- 
| > | Tony Terlecki
| > | ajt@mrps.demon.co.uk
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In reply to: Message from ajt at mrps.demon.co.uk (Tony Terlecki) ([Leica] Starbucks)
Message from s.jessurun95 at chello.nl (animal) ([Leica] Starbucks)
Message from ajt at mrps.demon.co.uk (Tony Terlecki) ([Leica] Starbucks)