Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2004/09/25
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]B.D. I dont apreciate your angry tone. You have had no problems in the past contacting me off list , my adress has not changed . And I said sorry somewhere below for interrupting a conversation. In your language i believe it to be impolite to combine an explanation with an apology. Simon | Excuse me, Simon, but WHAT precisely is your problem? | | | On Thu, 29 Apr 2004 00:43:13 +0200, animal <s.jessurun95@chello.nl> wrote: | | > sorry for interrupting your conversation I wont do it again | > simon | > | > | What is this supposed to mean, and what does it supposedly have to do | > with | > | people taking photos simply because they will be terrific photos? | > | | > | | > | On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 23:48:29 +0200, animal <s.jessurun95@chello.nl> | > wrote: | > | | > | > Beasts want to be on top of every hill , king of the world . | > | > There is no harm in that is there? | > | > We all want to say look mammy what i have done occasionally don,t | > we? | > | > Rule the world with a magic feather? | > | > simon | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | No, it doesn't explain why someone takes a snap of Skipper and | > Sissy, | > | > but | > | > | theoretically people on this list think of themselves as | > | > "photographers." | > | > | | > | > | And, no, I would not flunk her because she had one, or even | > several, | > | > | photos in her project that weren't good picks. | > | > | But she showed the photo in question independently, as her PAW for | > the | > | > | past week - students are required to produce one photo a week that | > can | > | > be | > | > | viewed as telling a story - and that one does. In terms of her | > | > project, it | > | > | is one of several showing that one of the 'clients' at the center | > was | > | > | upset, and several people, including his 'girlfriend,' whose hand | > was | > | > in | > | > | the photo, was one of those people... | > | > | | > | > | But the point I was trying to make, is that I think she hit the | > | > proverbial | > | > | nail on the head in terms of why "photographers" take photos - | > they | > | > take | > | > | them for the same reason that mountain climbers give for climbing | > | > | mountains - because they're there! | > | > | :-) | > | > | | > | > | | > | > | | > | > | On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 16:33:14 -0400, Phong <phong@doan-ltd.com> | > wrote: | > | > | | > | > | > B.D., | > | > | > | > | > | > That is only partially true, and I suppose | > | > | > more so for "photographers". The majority | > | > | > of the people who take photos are not | > | > | > photographers. They just want a snapshot | > | > | > of someone, or something that interest | > | > | > them. Even I do this sometimes, though | > | > | > I would never show the result to another | > | > | > photographer, especially on the LUG. :-) | > | > | > | > | > | > Anyway, your story raises and answers | > | > | > the question of why your student takes | > | > | > that photo. It does not address why | > | > | > she chose that photo to show. Clearly, | > | > | > if it does not fit her project, or the story | > | > | > she wants to tell, it would not be included, | > | > | > no matter how great the photo is. Otherwise | > | > | > you would flunk her, wouldn't you ? :-) | > | > | > | > | > | > - Phong | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > B. D. Colen wrote: | > | > | >> | > | > | >> About 'our' motivation to photograph. | > | > | >> | > | > | >> This past Saturday, my students were showing roughs of their | > | > semester | > | > | >> projects. One young woman has been shooting at a center for the | > | > | >> developmentally disabled - aw, hell, the retarded - focusing on | > an | > | > art | > | > | >> program they have. She showed an image that was a close up of | > two | > | > | >> people's hands awkwardly touching - a striking image - and my | > TA | > | > noted | > | > | >> that this image was a good one for us to think about in terms | > of | > | > | >> addressing the question 'when is photo journalism/documentary | > | > | >> photography, voyeurism?' So we talked about it for a while and | > then | > | > I | > | > | >> asked the student, 'why did you take this photo?' Her response: | > | > | >> | > | > | >> "I thought it would be a great photo!" No bullshit. No 'I want | > to | > | > help | > | > | >> people.' No BS about 'understanding.' Just the bottom line - | > she's | > | > a | > | > | >> photographer, and the image leapt out at her. And that, in my | > | > humble | > | > | >> opinion, is what IT really is all about. | > | > | >> | > | > | >> We may take photos for various economic, personal, political, | > | > | >> journalistic reasons. But if we really are the beast called | > | > | >> photographers, it call comes down to "I thought it would be a | > great | > | > | >> photo!" | > | > | > | > | > | > _______________________________________________ | > | > | > Leica Users Group. | > | > | > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more | > information | > | > | | > | > | | > | > | | > | > | -- | > | > | Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: | > | > http://www.opera.com/m2/ | > | > | _______________________________________________ | > | > | Leica Users Group. | > | > | See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more | > information | > | > | > | > _______________________________________________ | > | > Leica Users Group. | > | > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information | > | | > | | > | | > | -- | > | Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: | > http://www.opera.com/m2/ | > | _______________________________________________ | > | Leica Users Group. | > | See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information | > | > _______________________________________________ | > Leica Users Group. | > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information | | | | -- | Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ | _______________________________________________ | Leica Users Group. | See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information