Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2004/09/25
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]But Gene, for most photojournalists, the "outside of autofocus," and "with the exception of flash capability," are enough to end the discussion. And as to the motors - what's the top fps on the R8/9? -----Original Message----- From: lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org [mailto:lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of grduprey@rockwellcollins.com Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2004 2:28 PM To: lug@leica-users.org Subject: RE: [Leica] Ten years behind? I think not. Outside of Autofocus, the R8/9 are pretty much up to date with the exception of Flash capability. In that area Nikon pretty much has it sewn up. the only other thing Leica does not have is built in motor/winders, but I do not see that as being dated as I prefer having the choice of motor or not. Gene |---------+--------------------------------------------------------> | | "B. D. Colen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net> | | | Sent by: | | | lug-bounces+grduprey=rockwellcollins.com@leic| | | a-users.org | | | | | | | | | 05/05/2004 12:14 PM | | | Please respond to Leica Users Group | | | | |---------+--------------------------------------------------------> >----------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------| | | | To: "'Leica Users Group'" <lug@leica-users.org> | | cc: | | Subject: RE: [Leica] Ten years behind? I think not. | >----------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------| BUT...And I am NOT looking for a fight with the R crowd...by modern SLR standards, those same R8s with what you say is great metering and that great Leica glass, are definitely at least a decade behind the curve in terms of features. R8 aficionados may not want those features, but they are a given in the rest of the photo world, and that - and pricing - severely limits the R market. BTW - to what Nikon are you comparing the R8's metering? B. D. -----Original Message----- From: lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org [mailto:lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of Jim Hemenway Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2004 12:07 PM To: Leica Users Group Subject: [Leica] Ten years behind? I think not. Hi Ted: >>> Leica were ten years behind all other SLR manufactures and to date haven't caught up <<< Together with Leica-R lenses, both of my R8s, (with the best metering this side of Rollei 6008) are ten years ahead of the rest in terms of the quality photographs they produce. My Nikons have been gathering dust for four years. Jim Ted Grant wrote: > B. D. said: > > >>>>>The bottom line is that most PEOPLE don't know that Leica ever >>>>>existed, >> >>or exists. Since at least the 1970s Leica has been a boutique brand in >>a WalMart world.....<<< > > > Hi B. D., > > I don't think you could say it any plainer! And it's been going down > hill ever since, quite possibly to oblivion as we know it today. > > Yep at one time in the photo world "it was THE camera!" Period, no > question. Unfortunately the company did not evolve with an evolving > world and is now struggling to save the life boats, let alone the ship > that sank some years ago. > > If you do not evolve with world changes, time and cameras do not stand > still for no man nor woman! No matter how good, excellent or wonderful > the product is, the world demands drive the wheels that allow it > survive. > > Leica were ten years behind all other SLR manufactures and to date > haven't caught up, let alone in the digital manufacturing of a digital > camera. Yep the digi back is coming? So are twelve blue moons in the > southern sky! If it works as they claim that's great, yes some folks > will buy it, but at what cost? It isn't like buying an amazing piece > of Leica created glass. > > Their constant wail about a digital "M" style camera being impossible > was all of a sudden turned around as soon as another manufacturer came > up with a similar machine. Where they were ten years behind in SLR > production it would appear they're worse off in the digital world. > Unfortunately. > > However, I feel there'll always be those of us who'll use film even > along with digital. And our choice for film camera will always be a > Leica. Certainly mine will be...... no matter what kind of digital I > have in the other hand! > > ted > _______________________________________________ Leica Users Group. See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information _______________________________________________ Leica Users Group. See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information _______________________________________________ Leica Users Group. See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information