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Subject: [Leica] Best known photo ?
From: bdcolen at earthlink.net (B. D. Colen)
Date: Sat Sep 25 19:21:12 2004

Hell, Paul, we shoulda blow the dams in the north and then nuked the
commie bastards! Every red blooded American knows that. Ought do the
same think to them Eyerakies!

-----Original Message-----
From: lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org
[mailto:lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of
Paul Hardy Carter
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2004 7:32 PM
To: Leica Users Group
Subject: Re: [Leica] Best known photo ?


Very interesting, Marc. What do you suggest the US should have done in
order to win the war in Viet Nam? More troops, perhaps? More
sophisticated weapons?

On second thoughts, this list has had more than it's due of military
history in recent days!

P.

At 18:58 -0400, 10/5/04, Marc James Small wrote:
>At 06:00 PM 5/10/04 EDT, TTAbrahams@aol.com wrote:
>>The Eddie Adams shot of the
>>killing of the prisoner and Nick's shot of the girl probably did more 
>>to create resistance to the US involvement in Vietnam than any other 
>>coverage.
>
>
>Hmm.  Tom, I will dissent to the point that the Gallup and Harris polls

>into 1973 showed that US resistance to the War was directly based on 
>the apparent unwilliingness of the Government to WIN the war.  That is,

>at the very point when the Republic of Viet-Nam was dieing, the average

>US citizen supported massive US support to bolster that government.  I 
>recognize the impact these images had -- I was in college from 1968 
>until 1974 -- but, in the end, the impact on the US electorate was the 
>inability of the US government to commit itself to winning the war.  
>College students did not then, and do not now, vote:  in terms of those

>who DID vote, the war ought to have been pursued and "victory" should 
>have been achieved.  (Ah!  now, just what "victory"meant varies from 
>person to person!)
>
>The failure was on the part of those supporting the War effort:  they 
>faded as the news media pounded on them.  Compare this to today, where 
>the Bush supporters are relatively immune to the intense flurry of 
>anti-Administration talk by the media.  Perhaps the Right has learned 
>much;  perhaps the Left has revealed its inherent fallacies.  In any 
>event, the situations in 1968 and 2004 are radically different despite 
>the best efforts of those of you who lust after protest marches as the 
>Photo Op of the Week.
>
>Marc
>
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