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Subject: [Leica] Was HCB that good?
From: nbeddoe at lehman.com (Beddoe, Neil)
Date: Sat Sep 25 19:21:58 2004

I've been trawling through my memory and the only HCB pics I remember as
being any good are the jump, On the Banks of the Marne and the one with the
fat man with the hat on in front of the wall with the kids running about.
All the others I can remember are just sort of OK.  There are plenty of
other photographers who have each produced dozens of pictures that stick in
my mind.

Probably says more about me than it does about HCB though.

And yes, I know he isn't dead yet.

Neil

-----Original Message-----
From: robertmeier@usjet.net [mailto:robertmeier@usjet.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2004 6:00 PM
To: Leica Users Group
Subject: Re: [Leica] The Critic


> So Bob said:
> >>> Yes, in the right circumstances.  At just the right moment.  With many
> > reflections and repetitions of the motion.<<<<<<<
>
> So Bob what your saying is....
>
> Where HCB had the guy jump more than once, that's still a decisive moment
> even though it was staged several times?
>

Ted,  no, I didn't say that, nor mean that.   The repetitions are in the
poster behind him which shows a circus performer in the same position,
roughly, that the jumper is in, and the various semi-circles in the water
(and elsewhere I remember, but I don't have the picture infront of me) that
repeat the lines of his arms, etc.

> I see that as a repetitive moment, not a decisive moment.  Any idiot
> photographer worth his salt can have someone do an action many times and
> eventually capture something decisive looking. Then of course over a 60
year
> or more span create the myth of it being caught as a one shot decisive
> moment.
>

Are you charging that HCB staged this shot?  What is the basis for your
accusation?



> I stick by my earlier comment, this picture of the critic with arms
raised,
> as we see it presented here, is as decisive a moment as the re-creations
by
> HCB. Why shouldn't it be. Hell if it were presented as an HCB everyone
would
> pee their pants with "Oh man he's the greatest!"
>
A decisive moment, certainly.     But "the re-creations by HCB"?  You think
ALL of his pictures were staged?

Bob

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