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Subject: [Leica] Susan Sontag on Iraq Photos
From: bdcolen at earthlink.net (B. D. Colen)
Date: Sat Sep 25 19:22:05 2004

It's quite weird. But not surprising. And while Stern is often gross, he
is clearly quite bright - and he knows his audience.

-----Original Message-----
From: lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org
[mailto:lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of
Keith R. Wessel
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2004 8:03 PM
To: Leica Users Group
Subject: Re: [Leica] Susan Sontag on Iraq Photos


Thanks for this.  I had no knowledge of this influence.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "B. D. Colen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net>
To: "'Leica Users Group'" <lug@leica-users.org>
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2004 6:36 PM
Subject: RE: [Leica] Susan Sontag on Iraq Photos


> Actually, the most fascinating thing about the Janet Jackson affair - 
> so to speak - and the FCC clamp down, is that it has turned Howard 
> Stern, the country's leading "shock jock," into a virulent Bush hater.

> Stern has turned his program into a daily support the 1st Amendment 
> And Send These Religious Wakos Back Where They Came From four hours. 
> And his audience, and his influence, are enormous. Christie Todd 
> Whitman makes no bones about the fact that Stern was responsible for 
> her victory when she ran for NJ governor, and there are those who said

> that Stern's support was a great help to George Pataki in being 
> elected Gov. of NY. If this is a close election, and Stern fans follow

> the leader, it could be they, rather than Rush "The Junkie" Limbaugh's

> ditto-heads who tip the scales, if for no other reason than that 
> Limbaugh's audience is already committed to Bush, while Stern's 
> contains many non-voters, and people without any real conviction. 
> Fascinating.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org
> [mailto:lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf 
> Of Adam Bridge
> Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2004 7:03 PM
> To: Leica Users Group
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Susan Sontag on Iraq Photos
> 
> 
> On 5/26/04 <elaine@chaos.wustl.edu (Elaine -HFB- Ashton)> thoughtfully
> wrote:
> 
> >
> >Living outside the US, it is a bit more aggravating since everywhere
> >else in the world is getting a less filtered feed of photos and 
> >commentary. I keep wondering how Janet Jackson's nipple raised 10
times
> 
> >the furor and outrage than did these photos inside the US.
> >
> 
> I hardly think that's an accurate statement. There is deep and abiding

> anger about the revelations and the photographs and it's having a 
> substantial effect on public opinion.
> 
> Janet Jackson's nipple is an indication more of a cultural frustration

> with control and danger than anything else. It has become a power 
> struggle where the religious right can now have another arms race with

> the devil - this time in the form of MTV and shock jocks.
> 
> I can relate. I was disgusted, not by the fact that we actually saw an

> almost bare breast during the Super Bowl but that it was so carefully 
> contrived...exactly like politics almost everywhere.
> 
> Adam Bridge
> 
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