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Subject: [Leica] The Horror, The Horror
From: bdcolen at earthlink.net (B. D. Colen)
Date: Sat Sep 25 19:22:11 2004

LOL!at your last line, Dan...:-)
As to the rest of it, the slope we're on is slippery indeed....

-----Original Message-----
From: lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org
[mailto:lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of
Dan Post
Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 6:18 PM
To: Leica Users Group
Subject: Re: [Leica] The Horror, The Horror


BD-
The thing that struck me, aside from the stupidity of the guards, was
the part of the article about congress limiting who and what could be
photographed. Not only is this a clear intrusion on the tenth amendment,
but it seems like a start up the 'slippery slope' of abridging the first
amendment. So far, street photographers are banned from taking shot in
and around subways, as I understand, and possibly in other venues of
public transportation. Who is to say that there might not be a ban on
photographing interesting looking people since the attention might be
construed as something sinister- photographing ugly people might hurt
their self esteem, or photographing people eating might cause some
mental trauma in the 'victims'. As far as Abu Ghraib is concerned- I did
not see any dead bodies, no-one was bleeding, and there were no stacks
of gassed or mutilated corpses, nor decapitated journalists to be seen.
I am not condoning the behavior- by and large we are above such things,
and what was done was disgusting. I must say, however, that if
humiliating, and denigrating someone is a crime, then some of the
Reponses I've seen on this list would damn near be felonies! Best of
light to you! Dan




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "B. D. Colen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net>
To: "'Leica Users Group'" <lug@leica-users.org>
Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 4:04 PM
Subject: RE: [Leica] The Horror, The Horror


> What does, Simon? The photographs, or the discussion of them by Fred 
> Ritchin, former photo editor of New York Magazine, former Executive 
> Editor of Camera Arts Magazine, and  founding director of the 
> Photojournalism and Documentary Photography Program at the 
> International Center of Photography?
>
> Since the site invites responses, perhaps you should write one? ;-)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org
> [mailto:lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf 
> Of animal
> Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 3:46 PM
> To: Leica Users Group
> Subject: Re: [Leica] The Horror, The Horror
>
>
> it makes me sick
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "B. D. Colen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net>
> To: "'Leica Users Group'" <lug@leica-users.org>
> Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 9:40 PM
> Subject: RE: [Leica] The Horror, The Horror
>
>
> > Why not might be the most appropriate answer.
> >
> > But why? Let me see: because this is above all, a list of people who

> > are supposedly interested in things photographic; because the 
> > presentation relates to the role of photography in the modern world;

> > because the presentation relates to how the uses of photography may 
> > or
>
> > may not reflect our social values; because it's interesting to read 
> > varying viewpoints on issues on public importance.
> >
> > Oh, wait, Animal asked this question.
> > Never mind - the presentation in question has nothing to do the with

> > ultimate resolving power of a lens, as measured by photographing 
> > technical charts from a balloon suspended 1,000 feet in the air -
> >
> > So Simon, don't waste your time on it.
> >
> >
> > B. D.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org
> > [mailto:lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf

> > Of animal
> > Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 3:17 PM
> > To: Leica Users Group
> > Subject: Re: [Leica] The Horror, The Horror
> >
> >
> > Why?
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "B. D. Colen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net>
> > To: "'Leica Users Group'" <lug@leica-users.org>
> > Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 9:11 PM
> > Subject: [Leica] The Horror, The Horror
> >
> >
> > > http://www.pixelpress.org/horror_text.html
> > >
> > > A MUST see....and read...
> > >
> > > B. D.
> > >
> > >
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