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Subject: [Leica] Susan Sontag on Iraq Photos
From: bdcolen at earthlink.net (B. D. Colen)
Date: Sat Sep 25 19:22:19 2004

You're preaching to the choir on this one, Phong - I made the point I
made because AFTER the WMD excuse was shown to be a lie, then they
switched to the new excuse. So I am saying, okay, let's look at the new
excuse...in light of Abu Ghraib. But you are absolutely right about the
government lying to us about going to war. What I'd like to know is what
the vote in Congress would have been without the WMD lies...

-----Original Message-----
From: lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org
[mailto:lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of
Phong
Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 2:09 PM
To: Leica Users Group
Subject: RE: [Leica] Susan Sontag on Iraq Photos


B. D. Colen wrote:
> The point some people seem to miss in all this is that, now that 
> eliminating WMDs is no longer being given as the cause for this war, 
> bringing American Democracy and values to the Arab world IS being 
> given as the rationale. So the question is this: ...

Speaking for myself, I would rather not switch topics.
The fact of the matter to me is that I was told the imminent 
threat of WMD _was_ the reason we went to war with Iraq.
You switch topics, and you let the current administration
evade the fact that they _lied_ to us.  War is horror,
but we went to war for a lie and a gallon of gas ?

I hate to say this, but, Vietnam again, anyone ?  The 
government lied to us about going to war.  I don't want us 
to forget that.  I don't want them to forget that.

- Phong

P.S. I, for sure, know the dubious benefit of some attemots
to bring American Democracy to the 3rd world.  While
I cherish the American Democracy, I deplore the way
we very hypocritically use it as a shield for other gains.

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