Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2004/09/25
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Thanks, Dan... Boy, handwriting so good you never had to type? That is some handwriting! (You ought to be a calligrapher on the side. :-)) -----Original Message----- From: lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org [mailto:lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of Dan Post Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2004 1:07 PM To: Leica Users Group Subject: Re: [Leica] RE: While it is happening (B. D. Colen)writing goingdwnhll B.D. rite-on! U da man! It was obvious to me 34 years ago. I returned to college after a stint in the service, and was told I had to take a course called English 105- that it was required of all incoming students. It seems that not enough students were taught how to use the libraries in their respective high schools, so the college developed a mandatory course to teach the LC and Dewey decimal systems to incoming students so they could use the library facilities! I told them that I worked in a library my three years of high school, and was not about to waste my time, or money for something that ridiculous. I also remember later in life, painfully reading the writing of my kids, and now my grandkids- from whom I find numerous errors, even though their grades in English are high. I was surprised when my grand-daughter who is now a rising senior informed me that she didn't know what 'diagramming a sentence' meant. I try to help any way I can, but it is as difficult to change the course of their schooling after so many years, as it would be to change the course of a river that had cut its path into the rock. I can say that my grandson will more often pull out the Britannica Dictionary more often that trust the spell-check! I have had younger people comment on my handwriting, and they often ask if I am a calligrapher; no, I tell them, I was taught how to write (remember the old Palmer method?) and that we actually had handwriting instruction. I managed to get a BS and a BA, never typing a paper since I wrote legibly. I can say that among the newsgroups, this one has the singular distinction of having the most literate and cogent member of any that I visit- Hell, even the members for whom English is not their native language are invariably more cogent, lucid, and understandable than a lot of the native English speakers I run into daily. Even if you discount the numerous authors and journalists on the list, the quality of writing and communication in general here is astounding, and I agree with BD, that even without a scientific study or a degree in the scientific method, it seems obvious that the quality of education, as a whole, and the children who are the product of that education are slipping into a morass of mediocrity. So, keep the faith, BD- You make sense more often than not! Dan ----- Original Message ----- From: "B. D. Colen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net> To: "'Leica Users Group'" <lug@leica-users.org> Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2004 10:45 AM Subject: RE: [Leica] RE: While it is happening (B. D. Colen)writing goingdwnhll > Good Lord, Simon - do we now require scientific prove for statements > made on the LUG? I hope no one's told Brian, because if he becomes > aware of this new standard he's going to have to shut this bullshit > factory down so quickly we won't even be able to see it happening. ;-) > > But all kidding aside - First, let me say that I am speaking about > writing in America. And second, I believe that my statement reflects > the near universal opinion of those who observe such things. (And no, > I am not footnoting this statement.) > > B. D. > > -----Original Message----- > From: lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org > [mailto:lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf > Of animal > Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2004 10:11 AM > To: Leica Users Group > Subject: Re: [Leica] RE: While it is happening (B. D. Colen)writing > goingdwnhll > > > > > > Now, as to the proliferation of writing tools improving writing...I > > think just the opposite may be true. While Email is probably causing > > more people to communicate in writing, the quality of writing today > > has markedly deteriorated over that of a few decades ago, and > > appears to be going nowhere but downhill. > > > How can you prove such a statement? > simon > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > _______________________________________________ Leica Users Group. See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information