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Subject: [Leica] About ready to give it up...
From: frank.dernie at btinternet.com (FRANK DERNIE)
Date: Sat Sep 25 19:24:33 2004

I have to fly for work, I used to take most of my
holidays in the US. I now no longer fly at all unless
I have to for work and I shall never come on a US
holiday again.
Frank

--- James Harrison <leicajh@earthlink.net> wrote: > I
can afford to see my daughter more often than I
> do, but the hassle and
> crampted Boeings make me wait longer between
> visists.
> 
> 
> James Harrison
> http://home.earthlink.net/~leicajh/
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > [Original Message]
> > From: Adam Bridge <abridge@gmail.com>
> > To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>
> > Date: 7/24/2004 4:57:53 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Leica] About ready to give it up...
> >
> > I take your point but feel that this then rests at
> the feet of the
> > airlines and Boeing and AirBus for not building
> airplanes the way
> > people actually USE them. I am now firmly in the
> Air Bus preference
> > camp - at least as configured on the airlines I
> have flown they have
> > wider aisles, fractionally wider seats, and
> overhead compartments that
> > will take a roll-on case sitting perpendicular to
> the aisle so they
> > take less space. Being 6-3, 280, I need all the
> space I can get. The
> > airlines COULD have asked for more/better overhead
> space in the design
> > of their airplanes - but they are more intent on
> squeezing every last
> > passenger inch regardless of comfort. It's no
> wonder travellers get
> > grumpy. (I won't even go into the issue of what
> passes for restrooms
> > on Boeing aircraft beyond my desire to lock the
> designers into one
> > for, say, a flight across the country, or the
> Pacific, depending on
> > airframe.)
> >
> > It's a curious effect: airline luggage handling
> got worse and worse so
> > passengers reacted by bringing more and more into
> the cabin with them
> > so they wouldn't have to wait around for 45
> minutes or so for their
> > bags to (possibly) come off the carousel. So we
> got to live with big
> > folding bags AND a briefcase AND something else.
> Which was ugly.
> >
> > Now it's much more convenient (at least for me) to
> check as much
> > luggage as I can so I don't have to worry about
> taking it through
> > security although I can no longer lock my bags so
> I can't put anything
> > in them I don't want pilfered. I've taken to using
> a Timbuk2 messenger
> > bag and a small Domke camera bag which works
> really well for me
> > although sometimes I have to use a wheeled bag if
> I take the R8 and a
> > long lens and tripod. AND it seems that the
> airlines are getting bags
> > out of the aircraft and to the carousel faster
> than they used to. Or
> > maybe I'm more resigned to it all.
> >
> > Adam
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sat, 24 Jul 2004 23:39:54 +0200, animal
> <s.jessurun95@chello.nl> wrote:
> > > Has nothing to do with terrorists.
> > > It,s just part of an industry effort to enhance
> safety.
> > > Nect time you travel look in the overhead bins
> ,you,ll find a little
> placard
> > > there with the weight limitations.
> > > These bins were not designed for the loads you
> typically encounter.That
> > > means that in extreme turbulence or a otherwise
> survivable crash they,ll
> > > fail and cause injury.
> > > simon jessurun
> > > amsterdam
> > > 
> > > 
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Adam Bridge" <abridge@gmail.com>
> > > To: "Leica Users Group" <lug@leica-users.org>
> > > Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2004 11:36 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Leica] About ready to give it
> up...
> > > 
> > > > It's when we're at the hands of capricious or
> arbitrary enforcement of
> > > > inconsistent rules that we are most often the
> must frustrated --
> > > > there's just no personal control for anyone
> when it happens and it
> > > > definitely makes one NOT endure the situation
> that causes it.
> > > >
> > > > I remember flying to Australia on Qantas we
> were limited to a single
> > > > bag. Fortunately I knew it well in advance and
> could plan. But I know
> > > > I'd be very angry to have arrived at the
> airport to find that there
> > > > was a weight limit as well as the single bag
> limit.
> > > >
> > > > More thanks to the terrorists!
> > > >
> > > > Adam
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 18:16:47 -1000, Karen
> Nakamura <mail@gpsy.com>
> wrote:
> > > > > >I think you were unlucky, Karen. For the
> past year I have flown
> > > > > >weekly between Amsterdam and Spain (plus
> other trips to assorted
> > > > > >other places), and I have not once had a
> problem carrying my
> > > > > >Samsonite pilot case with computer, papers
> etc., and a small Domke
> > > > > >bag with my cameras. And of course, by the
> time I get to the plane,
> > > > > >I usually have a 3rd bag containing various
> liquid purchases from
> > > > > >the tax-free shops :-)
> > > > >
> > > > > Perhaps. I find it very frustrating because
> you don't know until you
> > > > > get to the airport what the policy is. It
> also seems to vary
> > > > > depending on the:  check-in agent, carry-on
> baggage screener, and
> > > > > gate agent.  I've been given varying
> information by these people on
> > > > > the same flight!
> > > > >
> > > > > Some clearer information and training would
> be good.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Karen
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Karen Nakamura
> > > > >
> http://www.photoethnography.com/ClassicCameras/
> > > > >
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